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whiteguyinchina from private IP, post #13626279 /all These countries will pay you up to $90,000 to move there right now https://nypost.com/2024/11/23/lifestyle/these-countries-will-pay-you-up-to-90000-to-move-there-now/ This is just tip of the iceberg as populations decline in many cuntries Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:52:24 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #19467018 The downside is you have to live in crap places but some of those crap places are quite pretty and have good food Sun, 24 Nov 2024 10:05:17 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #14245177 Japan? i don't believe it Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:21:45 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #15989910 I am sure about sci fi movie or book exists exploring this theme, but imagine a future where young people are the most precious commodity. Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:22:42 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #18375615 It could take a dystopia slant ala hunger games, or maybe something creepy like in a stephen king novel ala misery. Or just pure depressing like the road. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:03:22 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #18448902 I can’t speak too much for other countries, but some of the homes in Italy will require extensive money to fix and even if you do fix them, most Americans would not be able to tolerate life in certain Italian small towns especially if they do not speak Italian or dialect. Keep in mind, many villages were destroyed by earthquakes and natural disasters. I would live there because I have grown up going out there and I am used to the country life as I even went to school out there briefly and can speak Italian and dialect fluently. I know the dialect even better than many people who there 24/7 born after 1970, but the average American even if from a rural part of the USA would have a hard time adjusting. There was some crazy leftist lady in her 50s from Los Angeles with more distant Italian roots whoabandoned her adult children in the USA to make Tiktoks in Italy. She initially moved to her ancestral village, but abandoned it to try to go up to Northern Italy. Then in Northern Italy, she claimed she was sexually harassed. Then some other American blogger living in Sardinia invited her there and she fought with all her connects in Sardinia too. It’s really hard for Americans to understand the people there. I struggled sometimes in my mom’s town despite having my own home and more recent roots. When we need repairs on home, it’s hard to trust people because so many scammers. All our close relatives are way up north in Trento. All my mom’s first cousins are there. My grandmother’s other sisters in Canada and Australia. Italians need to focus on returning citizenship to Italians born in Italy who lost their nationality before 1992. My mom became American in 1986 and lost her Italian citizenship. She has to go through her crappy birth comune of scam artists in Calabria to get it back. The Italian consulate here in Chicagosent my mom’s documents there and those dicks pretended like they didn’t get them. We now have to hire a lawyer. So many criminals there trying to steal the land of others. I eventually got Italian citizenship, but I had to go through my dad’s side of the family which required gathering many more documents. My dad’s family village in Campania was much better than my mom’s though. They did my papers fast. I was shocked because Campania usually is filled with criminals in places like Napoli, but my dad’s comune was more towards Foggia so decent people. Anyway, I love being in Italy and most my time there is spent in my mom’s village and I love the rural life there, but it’s a very hard life to get accustomed to if you are somebody who is going there as an adult for the first time. I knew a guy from the neighboring town who is this old man who had settled in Australia. When he retired and after his son died, he moved his wife and daughter to his small Italian village. The daughter was a bit older than me. 17 at the time, but it was her first time ever in the village and in Italy. I had been visiting since I was 3, so I always loved it. Then again, I also haven’t been forced to live there forever and the longest I’ve stayed is a little less than a year back in 97 when I went to school there. Australians can’t travel as much as Americans obviously due to distance. While this girl eventually learned Italian well and her old parents opened her a spa there, she never really liked it there and always wanted to go back to Australia. She moved back to Australia about three years ago after getting divorced with no kids from an Italian carabinieri who supposedly beat her. Now she found some Greek Australian guy and got remarried and settled forever in Australia doing eyebrows. The big new home her parents made is up for sale. Sad because it’s a beautiful place. I would never sell my home, but her mom died so she probably doesn’t see herself returning to Italy and her dad who is elderly is in Australia with her. P.S. Good food is the battle cry of the third world sadly. Although these days, you can find good food in almost any country. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:18:43 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #10776312 I also think if between a small Italian village vs USA full time, I would likely prefer the USA but still visit Italy in summer and winter. However, I wouldn’t select Australia over Italy. Australia is so far. Even if you are in the most boring Italian village, you can still take the train to Milan or Rome or Florence for a few days. You can take a plane in be in Paris really fast. Then another weekend, even check out the Balkan countries or go somewhere like Prague. What can you honestly do in Australia? Maybe a trip to Vietnam? Even Hawaii is still pretty far for them. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:28:06 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #12113443 My home was built new in the 1980s on my grandfather’s land. Before that there was an old house that was destroyed in the war. Before this house was built in the 80s, my family would stay at my grandmother’s childhood home when they would visit the village back when my great grandparents were alive. My mom still has rights to my grandmother’s house, but it’s now occupied as a summer home by my mom’s cousin from Trento. He fixed up the home and modernized it. He wanted my grandmother to sign her rights to him and give him the house for free, but I told her not to do so. We aren’t stopping him from staying there as we have our own home and anyway he doesn’t need to sell it. As late as the 2010s, my village or rather my mom’s village was still thriving. It’s sad how many people have died recently, even really young people. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:01:28 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #17354379 my dad once told me there was a house in Macedonia from which where he came, but it's bs i think. Tue, 26 Nov 2024 21:22:17 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #15114376 If the house exists, you may still be able to find it if you go out there through the town hall. They usually keep maps. Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:11:12 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #18118770 Another interesting thing about the Italian villages is that even many migrants and refugees do not want to stay there long term so imagine American or other Westerners. I spoke to an Afghan English speaking old guy who briefly stayed in a neighboring village and then joined his daughter in Sweden. Even he found the Italian small town life humdrum. There have been several Africans come and go throughout the years. A woman in my town who recently died was also married to a Morrocan guy. This Moroccan guy was in the village since before I was a kid. Up until I was 21, I didn't even know he was Moroccan as he speaks the dialect perfectly and just looks like a white guy with big dark hair. One day in the bar, this man called him a Moroccan and I initially thought he was joking, but it turned out he was really Moroccan. Even my mom was shocked as he had been in the village since she was young as well. Just a dude who was always in front of the bar. He had been in our village since he was in his 20s. As soon as his wife died, he moved back to Morocco. He was in his late 40s or 50s at this point. He comes back from time to time, but is mostly in Morocco now. In Rabat to be precise. We connect from time to time on FB and he also invited me out there, but yeah he is also just looking for a hookup. People mistake kindness as interest. All the same, unless you have a familial and emotional connection to a place which I have with my mom's village as its always been a special place where I have so many memories, I cannot imagine starting a new life there. My village is a mountain one though. Some beach towns are definitely more popping and I can see Americans enjoying beach life, but even the beach towns are dead in winter. If anybody is interested, here is a documentary on the Italian ghost towns below. Very funny and crazy and also sad at the same time. My town is nowhere near the level of some of these as you can still find people out and about, but when I went to my father's family's town it was so eerie and beautiful at the same time. There were like 3 levels to this town and at one point, there were supposedly 10,000 plus people. Now there are only like 500 left. Imagine a town that big now totally empty! 500 is like nothing for a place that big and nobody was out so even 500 is likely an exaggeration and likely includes even residents who are not there full-time. I have also seen videos of people who went in like July and early August it was still dead. My mom started to get scared when we arrived there thinking the people were hiding. There was even a huge watch tower in this town and it was built like a maze. I had never seen a village like that in my life. Some of those homes looked like they had not been opened since the early 1900s. Whereas my mom's town was mostly depopulated in the 1960s and 1970s, this place seemed like it was depopulated so much earlier. Apparently, they even still had a few thousand people up until the 1980s, but an earthquake in the 1980s made it even deader. On the other hand, my mom's village was only like 1,000 max even in its prime. It's just a few large farms and maybe like 5 landowner families and their extended families and one baron and his descendants who still occupy the village. Our neighboring town which you can walk to in like 30 minutes has more homes and apartments. Now, my mom's town also has some empty homes, but most of the people who own these homes are just up north, in Australia, USA, Latin America, or Canada. They still go back from time to time. Even the ones that have been empty for years will eventually have somebody return. Also, the homes in my mom's town have mostly been restored and even many newer homes, but the home's in my dad's ancestral village were old old. My own great grandparents (mom's maternal side) left for Trento in the 1940s, but always maintained a residence in the village as did my grandmother's two eldest sisters. I think in the 1930s and 1940s, there was a shift away from village life. Not just in Europe, but also in Asia and to a lesser extent in the Americas. Maybe one day the villages will be revived in some form. Some mid sized cities may also have potential, but you can even go crazy in some mid sized Italian cities after some time. Last year, I spent some weeks in Chieti in Abruzzo. LONG story. Not my kind of town, but many Americans may like it. Chieti was too large to have the rural countryside charm and too small to have the convenience of a big city. Pescara which is the nearby beach town was filled with gypsies too. I don't care much for Central Italy. I prefer south or far north. Abruzzo still had beautiful mountains, but I can see mountains in other regions too. Marche is still nice, but honestly Ascoli Piceno is just for who wants to sit and eat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuRtWt5xMiA Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:29:50 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #14361917 so well-travelled. Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:47:27 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #14886574 if you are in the most boring Italian village, you can still take the train to Milan or Rome or Florence for a few days. You can take a plane in be in Paris really fast. Then another weekend, even check out the Balkan countries or go somewhere like Prague. What can you honestly do in Australia? Maybe a trip to Vietnam? Even Hawaii is still pretty far for them. I generally agree with you, but the problem with italy is all those Italians. You really have to like the culture and the people. Australians are much easier to deal with i think. Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:16:19 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #13136814 Lol disagree. Australians are obnoxious people who can make even the worst Europeans seem tolerable. Even their fashion is laughable. A Scottish guy confirmed this to me on a plane. We talked for about an hour about how obnoxious Australians are. Australians brag nonstop and they love to swear. My mom's cousins are the most insufferable people. Love to talk about how rich they are. Every Australian I know takes nouveau rich to a new level. They are not openly rude and hostile like many Europeans, but they have a certain passive aggressiveness and they use sarcasm to cowardly insult people. There is also this guy who restored a home on my block here in Chicago. He is an Australian who married an American. Most offensive guy ever. Typical big burly Anglo Australian outback dude. He says some crazy stuff and he flipped the apartments and threw out this elderly Ukrainian woman who couldn't afford the $1600 a month he wanted with no second thought. She was a long time tenant under the previous landlord and paid about $1,000 a month. He could have just let her continue until she died. What's funny is the Ukrainian initially thought he was Irish. When I found out he was Australian, everything made sense. Anyway, Australia may have less bureaucracy than Italy and other European countries and of course they speak English. Still, they are the worst people in the Anglo world. Maybe even worst than South Africans, if you can consider SA to be Anglo lol. I knew this other Dutch Australian girl Krystal who used to be a good friend of mine. She initially seemed like a sweet girl, but she had a very dark side and had been involved in some huge lawsuit where a former coworker sued their employer and alleged Krystal made her life a living hell with the bullying. They worked at some gas station I believe. As time passed, I saw that Krystal would make the weirdest cheap shots. She also loved to talk about how rich she was. This other girl I knew in Italy with the spa who went back to Australia was equally obnoxious. Bragging about how much money she had constantly. I also dealt with many Australian Lebanese. I recommend the movie Royal Hotel for a sort of comedy/horror/thriller about Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Hotel_(film) P.S. I loved Vegemite when I tried it though. Yay! Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:20:26 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #16463956 I have never been to Australia though. I would go to see my great aunt as I haven't seen her since I was a kid when she visited Italy, but honestly she is pretty weird too and probably my least favorite of my grandmother's sisters. LOL the Australian dude near my house here in Chicago even openly talks about how much he hates Italians in Melbourne when I told him I have family there. That's how rude Australians are. They are nothing like say English. Then, he was trying to persuade my mom to sell him our house. Telling her to retire to Florida. hahaha. Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:24:17 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #15189245 I'm exaggerating though by saying they are worst than SA. Afrikaners are some of the worst people to deal with. I only know one really really nice SA lawyer, but he has a nutty secretary. English Zimbabweans former Rhodesians are decent though and rich, but seemingly humble and country. Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:29:03 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #17265902 Although I get that the girl in Italy grew up in Australia though until she was 17, so that was her home and yes for her, Australians are easy to deal with and even with their obnoxiousness, they are easier for us as Americans to deal with than we can deal with Europeans. Europeans are harder to connect with. Some Australian tourists are decent funny people. They do just love the party life and that involves swearing and drinking. I guess I am just thinking about the countries in terms of entertainment and stuff to do. From what I hear, Australia is very expensive too. Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:22:17 -0800
shithead from private IP Reply #13345083 Australia is full of Australians - hard pass. If you took the population of Texas, feminized the males, removed anything resembling culture, and then exiled the landmass to somewhere between Indonesia and Antarctica, you'd have a place still more attractive than Australia. Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:55:42 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #15523570 Australia sounds ok to me except its suffering from drought, & i like water that is good to drink. here in MI, i have a well as i can't stand any chemicals. when my mom passes i will move to our house in NC, where i will die. Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:07:36 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #11800132 Yes you are right about those things but what I learned about Australians recently was that they are all very direct and can seem rude. They also like to fuck with people, I think they call it taking a piss on someone. It's like a national culture thing. So you can be openly rude to them back and they will just say no worries. I think you are being too harsh on australia. It's a beautiful place and the people are nice once you get used to them. But yes they cuss all the time, in front of kids also. And yes they do have the macho angle thing. But it's not unlike Midwest football bros Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:37:28 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #10383799 they do care about their kiddies though gee when i was a kid the most i could do was catch a beaver shot on HBO on 1am on a school night https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056# Fri, 29 Nov 2024 05:53:34 -0800
shithead from private IP Reply #15066856 Australians absolutely cannot handle having the piss taken out of them by Americans. They are some of the easiest people on the planet to troll - super thin-skinned and insecure, especially how they stack up against the United States. Crocodile Dundee is about the furthest thing in the world from your typical Australian male, who might as well have been neutered at birth. Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:02:41 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #16618720 Yup. Most are also not like Steve Irwin and I also always get the sense that they can dish it out, but can’t take it back. I’ve met all sorts of Australians of all different backgrounds from old stock heritage Australians to various European and Middle Eastern diasporas who live there. Most are similar. I think the most famous Australian is Rupert Murdoch. ahhahaha Olivia Newton John was alright. Oh but she was born in Cambridge and also had lived in the States. She grew up in Australia for some time though. Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:04:22 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #16758017 Australia is sort of a desolate land in some places too. I remember that film about the Aboriginal children Rabbit Proof Fence. Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:52:03 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #12339250 guys who owe child support go to Australia Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:36:41 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #15680803 I dunno i hung out with really burly bros and broads there, the ladies were very tough Mayne you hung out with thai elephant pajama pant backpacker bros? Why the Ozzie hate shithead? I am not an expert on this Australians strike me as more akin to uS Midwestern types than crocodile dundee, maybe Texans depending on where you go, and of course Californians in the big cities Australia is definitely desolate and very dry Still it's a cool place with nice people and a beautiful country Melbourne had just a scatter of homeless drug addicts which felt so strange to me, being in a western type city and not seeing legions of drug addicts laying around on the street in the main business center If you bailed on child support I imagine australia would get you extradition quickly Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:47:05 -0800
zerosugar from private IP Reply #19742056 I guess the main thing I dislike about Australians is they act like Australia is the epicenter of the universe. I like the USA naturally as I was born here and grew up here, but I also know you can live a good life in many places especially if you have money. This Australian Italian girl acted like Australia was so great and she couldn’t be anywhere else. Early on, she even escaped back to Australia. Then this Australian flipper by my house here in Chicago constantly brags about how great Australia is and how much better it is than the USA, telling me I should visit. They are just so big headed. Like why is he here in Chicago and why did he get married here if Australia is so great? Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:57:57 -0800
marlon from private IP Reply #18715567 foreigner men flock to places to get laid. Thailand, Eastern Europe, we all know about it. but lots of foreigners come to USA to get laid. it's the women to blame. they don't like the men here, but they like foreigners. my mom married a foreign man who came from a place she never heard of, just to get back at her dad. He was a decent man, my grandpa, but he disowned me for drinking at my sister's wedding, so i can understand.
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