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Fri, 06 Jun 2025 11:42:51 -0700
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Musk vs Trump

How do you feel about this conflict? In some ways, it makes me sad to believe no friendship in Washington can last forever. I also think that Trump sort of has
a history of leaving people high and dry. He did this to Steve Bannon. He has really no loyalty to his strongest supporters. Trump seems to like people who
dislike him more than he likes his strongest supporters. I feel Musk may be a more isolated type who doesn't have many close friends and he saw a friend in
Trump and perhaps a father figure. He wanted to stay in government. He feels abandoned. I do agree with Musk that he largely contributed to Trump's victory. 

All the same, Musk's tweets seem to express a lack of maturity. Its hard to believe anybody over 30 would make such tweets. Well in his case, over 50. The
government is unsalvageable at this point. I hope Musk can move on to other projects. Imagine if he saved the shopping malls. Imagine your local mall revived.
The food court would be the perfect place to test Optimus bots. Imagine being served by Optimus. Optimus can perhaps even open some stores. Musk would be a
bigger hero if he saved malls than he could ever be at Doge. 

Musk can make mall vaporwave neon aesthetic a reality while combining modern elements and using the malls as consumer testing grounds for his products. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLN1DfURDjc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq40p4dZIq8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8CLWcTVTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZUfiW3W1KY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geaYorUMZDc 

P.S. Do deficits matter? Asking a genuine question as there seems to be mixed information online. 

#Politics #Technology 


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 12:52:55 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #15109848

I also think how the left have responded is sad. Why are people only happy when others are miserable and enemies? 


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 16:57:21 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #17246662

P.S. I also will entertain the conspiracy that their fallout if fake. 

WHY IT COULD BE FAKE- Elon was always afraid of being too political being that Teslas are EVs and he is supposed to attract a certain type of clientele who tend
to be liberal. We all know a white South African dude just is not on the modern American left wing side of the political spectrum. Charlize Theron is an
exception, but she is a female who has been in Hollywood for years. I was shocked when Elon had the nerve to support Trump after the attempted assassination on
Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. A few months earlier, he said he was not going to donate to any candidate. Maybe Elon has returned to his 2019- early 2024 shy
Republican. Maybe he wants car sales again and for people to stop bothering him. I also thought the media reports that came out a few weeks before he left Doge
seemed like bullshit. They were trying to make it seem like he was on drugs the entire time he was with Trump. That seemed like a way to soft launch Elon to the
Dems again. Oh it wasn't Elon, it was the drugs. BS. Elon probably fed that drug story to the media. 


WHY THE BEEF IS REAL- The whole Epstein insult. If it were a fake fight, Elon would probably would not have said that. He knows that the Epstein story will
trigger the diehard MAGA folks and the Qanon fringe. In a fake fight, it would be enough for him to say, he can no longer support Trump because of the big
beautiful bill and then just make Trump seem politically unethical. 


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 16:59:30 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #13584412

Bottom line of why it could be fake- He knows he has to return to private life and needs to distance himself from Trump. 

All the same, I personally think the falling out between them is real. 


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 17:06:37 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #11175690

DOGE did a good job cleaning house, but this BBB just undermines it.  We'll be like Japan soon enough, their debt is 230% of their GDP, they're screwed


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 19:28:42 -0700
TribalBarConnection from private IP
Reply #15181060

Elon is having an autistic meltdown in public. Right or not about the Big Beautiful Bill. 


Fri, 06 Jun 2025 19:53:29 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #16384212

Him wanting to start a political party called “America” is just cringe. 

As much as both parties are flawed, a third party will not fix politics in the USA. He didn’t want to leave the White House and now has separation anxiety. I
understand he feels abandoned and that he feels the big beautiful bill is wrong, but his tweets have been crazy. I still think Elon can do so much good in the
private sector. 


Sat, 07 Jun 2025 06:48:51 -0700
Andy from private IP
Reply #15400257

A normal person does not go ballistic on the President when he doesn't get what he wants, and recklessly claim the President is in the Epstein files.  This is
an Aspie tantrum, and it isn't pretty.  If anything, it shows that the richest person on Earth is sometimes just like a little boy.  Sad.


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