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Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:33:37 -0800
Andy from
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The Star-Spangled Banner by Jimi Hendrix is the greatest musical tribute to
America of all time 🇺🇸
That Monday in August 1969, he wrote his name in history with his mixed-emotions
interpretation of the National Anthem. Jimi had served a year in the Army from
1961-1962, and although he didn't go to Vietnam, I feel like he had the right to
comment on the Vietnam War as any citizen had-- with the extra layer of being an
honorably discharged veteran, however, brief his service was. Do you agree?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzZh6-h9fM
#Politics #PublicFigures
Fri, 23 Feb 2024 07:37:47 -0800
zerosugar
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he was unique for sure and very talented. sad his life was cut short. the wind
cries mary is a nice one and crosstown traffic too. i guess back then people
weren’t as politically vocal or just felt it was safer to keep their opinions
to themselves and maybe they had a good reason. look at the crazy world today.
facebook comments sections are scary. so much rage over politics. i have mixed
emotions on the whole hippie movement/counter culture. i do think it’s
interesting that it’s nixon who ended the vietnam war and then they turned
their backs on nixon. lol. not that they were ever really on his side.
Fri, 23 Feb 2024 07:42:07 -0800
zerosugar
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i guess to really answer, music previously was more or less folksy and/or about
the holidays. think bing crosby. starting in the mid 60s, music became more
about protest. vietnam was a gruesome war, so people felt inclined to speak out.
i find it interesting though that the baby boomers of today who were part of the
counter culture back then now seem to support more war hawk candidates and
conflicts. why is there such an inclination to have supported a war in syria and
ukraine? the people who support these wars were previously against wars in
vietnam and iraq. i’m not trying to take sides in various conflicts, but
sometimes there are no winners or no better side when it comes to some
countries.
Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:47:32 -0800
tcow from
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most of the people i know who actively support war are young boomers and old gen
xers. the older boomers (think immediate postwar into the early 50s, the ones
who were of age or coming of age during vietnam) are still pretty anti-war in my
experience, but this also varies and they are still principally nationalists
above whatever political alignment they may have. the "america is the greatest
country in the world" sentiment does not echo as hard in young millennials or
gen z as it did for the boomers through the older millennials, perhaps because
those people felt the successes of america post civil rights movement and pre
2008 crash.
young millennials have less memories of economic prosperity, and many zoomers
have no memories of it at all.
Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:36:03 -0800
zerosugar
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yes, i like that point about older boomers vs younger boomers. there can be a
divide. i have also noticed a certain type of nationalism or should it be more
or less seen as idealism with the older boomers. even my mother who is early gen
x is so different from the people born in the early 60s who are technically
boomers such as my father.
gen z and so called zillennials do tend to be more negative. just ten minutes of
browsing videos on tiktok can be depressing from hearing more bleak views. while
i am old enough to remember how hard it was to just get a part time job in the
depression of 08 and into the early 10s.
american nationalism can be a sensitive subject. recently i went abroad then
came back to the usa right before christmas, it was really the first time in my
life i was super happy to be back stateside. i am appreciating america more as i
get older. as much as some obnoxious american nationalists can be annoying, the
europeans who constantly attack america without truly knowing this country are
even more annoying. i have traveled the world and feel that western europeans
are the most anti american.. i always feel like they have underlying jealousy
and are just self-righteous wanting to be the adults in the room. likewise,
these american expats on tiktok who make videos with common knowledge about
european countries are just annoying af. it’s like no shit!
there was this zoomer girl living in italy saying she moved there so her future
kids won’t get shot in school. that was just so over the top dramatic.
meanwhile, she spends her days complaining about italians and how rude they are.
i am somebody who has been visiting that country since i was 3 and don’t get
them at times. i can’t imagine moving there as an adult with no previous
experience with europeans.
the usa is not perfect. imho, i do agree with these people that the criminal
justice system is broken as well as healthcare. the economy is not what it was,
but lots of injustice and craziness in europe as well as in other countries on
other continents. not to mention, extremely rude people. i can appreciate a
smile from a stranger and a certain level of politeness. i hate to sound like an
american exceptionalist, but in the post Covid world, many European countries
can feel so third world including Central European countries such as Germany.
only the Nordic countries such as Finland feel very wealthy, but I also can’t
help but feel inferior to those people so I would never want to live there. lol.
anyway, the counter culture and its aftermath are something i personally can
feel nostalgic for even if i didn’t live through it. i also like to think
about the periods before and after.
the beatniks were about exploring areas that were once taboo. they were such an
interesting precursor to the counter culture as well as being the aftermath of
the “innocence” of the 1950s.
now for the aftermath of the counterculture. 1970s music is sort of about being
hung over from the 1960s. lots of sad songs. at that point, the beatles were
split up, musicians like jimi hendrix and janis joplin were dead. the hippies
were older and the best parts of their youth were basically over, all they had
to look forward to was basically becoming like their parents. soldiers were
returning from vietnam no longer the same.
people who know me know i’m not a depp fan at all, but i do love me some fear
and loathing in las vegas. i just think it’s such a beautiful movie. i’ve
never read the book, but maybe will in the future. i just like how such a large
part of that movie is longing for the recent past. the nostalgia in it is
beautiful and sad. in the case of fear and loathing, being in the 70s and having
this longing for the 60s or even for what the 60s should have been. i remember
in the early 10s having a severe longing for the early 00s. like the 1960s, so
many bad things happened in the 00s with the war in iraq. it was also a
beautiful time though and today feels so long ago.
music was an identity during the days jimi sang this song. even into the early
00s and 10s, music was an identity with the emos and scene kids. today, gen z on
tiktok are all about aesthetics and looks rather than true subcultures which
existed in the past. sorry for this long post. lol! :)
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