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Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:53:12 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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Don't speak ill of the dead....but.....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/attorney-witnessed-double-murder-suicide-las-vegas-law-firm-recounts-incomprehensible-tragedy

This witness is basically saying the guy who got shot was being a jerk

Discuss


Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:56:31 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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Dennis Prince entered the conference room with his wife, not knowing it would be the last few moments of their lives. Rasmussen said Dennis skipped the usual
pleasantries.

"It was immediately odd because there was no prelude. There was no ‘good morning. Does anyone want water? The bathrooms are in the hall,'" she said. "He just
looked at the court reporter and said, ‘please swear in the witness,’ which isn't, you know, the best way to put the witness at ease."

Before the questioning began, Rasmussen said, Joe asked Dennis if there was any way they were ever going to be able to resolve any of the issues for the sake of
children.

"And Dennis didn't respond. There was no response to that. He just turned to Kelly and started asking her the deposition questions. And not even, like, normally
in a depo, there's some prelude, you know, please wait until I finish my question until you start your answer. There was none of that," Rasmussen said. "He just
started asking her the substantive questions, which was, you know, probably not the way most people would do it."

Looking ahead, Rasmussen hopes some good can come from the unthinkable tragedy. She hopes to one day share her story with other lawyers to help bring more
"respect and civility" back to the profession.

"I hope one day, when I feel a little bit healed from this, to be able to perhaps talk to other lawyers –  to participate in some continuing legal education
– to reiterate the importance of civility," Rasmussen explained. "I hope to be a part of the conversation going forward in the future about how much civility
matters. It just matters… lawyering should not be a gladiator sport."



Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:57:09 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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Andy, please comment


Mon, 22 Apr 2024 01:51:08 -0700
Andy from private IP
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Man, that's a tough one.  Must be horrible being a terminally ill attorney with nothing to lose, but there's no excuse for committing a double murder-suicide
and leaving kids behind as orphans.  I'm always mindful that someone could be triggered in a moment by seemingly normal things, which is why I call myself The
Polite Gunfighter™ -- I'm polite but firm instead of being a jerk.  I'm also my own security at the law firm for this and other reasons.


Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:12:56 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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The act was despicable and deranged, no doubt. Just curious about the etiquette during a deposition. Would you say pleasantries should be exchanged, there
should be some small talk, and was this gladiator lawyering based on the scant evidence of the lawyer?

Anyway, I thought it was an odd statement to make from the lawyer lady. She's basically saying the guy just snapped, and there was questionable behavior from
the other side.


Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:45:04 -0700
Andy from private IP
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At depositions, I'm friendly and personable at all times; the ambience is that it's just something we have to get done and I'll try to do my best to make it
efficient and respectful of everyone's time.  It's hard to hate me when I do that, which is one reason I do it.  The other reason is that it's just how I am in
cases.  Ironic considering that I will freaking destroy someone at trial with their deposition transcript.  I would say this is a guy snapping who was a ticking
time bomb, and nothing could have been done.  He could have just waited until later in the deposition and then he would have done the same thing.


Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:49:13 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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Another thing I found odd is, the two people the crazy guy killed were his son's ex wife, and the new husband, who was also representing his new wife in the
custody dispute, against her ex father in law. So both sides were essentially representing themselves. Which goes against the old adage, a lawyer who represents
himself has a fool for a client. Thoughts? I thought in family law this would be avoided at all costs.


Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:50:53 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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Anyway awful outcome. Worst thing is the poor kids who have to grow up with this situation. 


Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:27:28 -0700
Andy from private IP
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Rule of thumb in family law: never represent a family member, especially not your new spouse.  It's not because this kind of thing can happen, it's because it
ratchets up the pressure and emotion to the point where people cannot handle it.
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