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Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:51:47 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP, post
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These countries will pay you up to $90,000 to move there right now
https://nypost.com/2024/11/23/lifestyle/these-countries-will-pay-you-up-to-90000-to-move-there-now/
This is just tip of the iceberg as populations decline in many cuntries
Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:52:24 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #19467018 The downside is you have to live
in crap places but some of those crap places are quite pretty and have good food
Sun, 24 Nov 2024 10:05:17 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #14245177 Japan? i don't believe it
Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:21:45 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #15989910 I am sure about sci fi movie or
book exists exploring this theme, but imagine a future where young people are
the most precious commodity.
Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:22:42 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #18375615 It could take a dystopia slant
ala hunger games, or maybe something creepy like in a stephen king novel ala
misery. Or just pure depressing like the road.
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:03:22 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #18448902 I can’t speak too much for
other countries, but some of the homes in Italy will require extensive money to
fix and even if you do fix them, most Americans would not be able to tolerate
life in certain Italian small towns especially if they do not speak Italian or
dialect.
Keep in mind, many villages were destroyed by earthquakes and natural disasters.
I would live there because I have grown up going out there and I am used to the
country life as I even went to school out there briefly and can speak Italian
and dialect fluently. I know the dialect even better than many people who there
24/7 born after 1970, but the average American even if from a rural part of the
USA would have a hard time adjusting. There was some crazy leftist lady in her
50s from Los Angeles with more distant Italian roots whoabandoned her adult
children in the USA to make Tiktoks in Italy. She initially moved to her
ancestral village, but abandoned it to try to go up to Northern Italy. Then in
Northern Italy, she claimed she was sexually harassed. Then some other American
blogger living in Sardinia invited her there and she fought with all her
connects in Sardinia too. It’s really hard for Americans to understand the
people there. I struggled sometimes in my mom’s town despite having my own
home and more recent roots. When we need repairs on home, it’s hard to trust
people because so many scammers. All our close relatives are way up north in
Trento. All my mom’s first cousins are there. My grandmother’s other sisters
in Canada and Australia.
Italians need to focus on returning citizenship to Italians born in Italy who
lost their nationality before 1992. My mom became American in 1986 and lost her
Italian citizenship. She has to go through her crappy birth comune of scam
artists in Calabria to get it back. The Italian consulate here in Chicagosent my
mom’s documents there and those dicks pretended like they didn’t get them.
We now have to hire a lawyer. So many criminals there trying to steal the land
of others. I eventually got Italian citizenship, but I had to go through my
dad’s side of the family which required gathering many more documents. My
dad’s family village in Campania was much better than my mom’s though. They
did my papers fast. I was shocked because Campania usually is filled with
criminals in places like Napoli, but my dad’s comune was more towards Foggia
so decent people.
Anyway, I love being in Italy and most my time there is spent in my mom’s
village and I love the rural life there, but it’s a very hard life to get
accustomed to if you are somebody who is going there as an adult for the first
time. I knew a guy from the neighboring town who is this old man who had settled
in Australia. When he retired and after his son died, he moved his wife and
daughter to his small Italian village. The daughter was a bit older than me. 17
at the time, but it was her first time ever in the village and in Italy. I had
been visiting since I was 3, so I always loved it. Then again, I also haven’t
been forced to live there forever and the longest I’ve stayed is a little less
than a year back in 97 when I went to school there. Australians can’t travel
as much as Americans obviously due to distance. While this girl eventually
learned Italian well and her old parents opened her a spa there, she never
really liked it there and always wanted to go back to Australia. She moved back
to Australia about three years ago after getting divorced with no kids from an
Italian carabinieri who supposedly beat her. Now she found some Greek Australian
guy and got remarried and settled forever in Australia doing eyebrows. The big
new home her parents made is up for sale. Sad because it’s a beautiful place.
I would never sell my home, but her mom died so she probably doesn’t see
herself returning to Italy and her dad who is elderly is in Australia with her.
P.S. Good food is the battle cry of the third world sadly. Although these days,
you can find good food in almost any country.
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:18:43 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #10776312 I also think if between a small
Italian village vs USA full time, I would likely prefer the USA but still visit
Italy in summer and winter. However, I wouldn’t select Australia over Italy.
Australia is so far. Even if you are in the most boring Italian village, you can
still take the train to Milan or Rome or Florence for a few days. You can take a
plane in be in Paris really fast. Then another weekend, even check out the
Balkan countries or go somewhere like Prague. What can you honestly do in
Australia? Maybe a trip to Vietnam? Even Hawaii is still pretty far for them.
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:28:06 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #12113443 My home was built new in the
1980s on my grandfather’s land. Before that there was an old house that was
destroyed in the war. Before this house was built in the 80s, my family would
stay at my grandmother’s childhood home when they would visit the village back
when my great grandparents were alive. My mom still has rights to my
grandmother’s house, but it’s now occupied as a summer home by my mom’s
cousin from Trento. He fixed up the home and modernized it. He wanted my
grandmother to sign her rights to him and give him the house for free, but I
told her not to do so. We aren’t stopping him from staying there as we have
our own home and anyway he doesn’t need to sell it. As late as the 2010s, my
village or rather my mom’s village was still thriving. It’s sad how many
people have died recently, even really young people.
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:01:28 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #17354379 my dad once told me there was a
house in Macedonia from which where he came,
but it's bs i think.
Tue, 26 Nov 2024 21:22:17 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #15114376 If the house exists, you may
still be able to find it if you go out there through the town hall. They usually
keep maps.
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:11:12 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #18118770 Another interesting thing about
the Italian villages is that even many migrants and refugees do not want to stay
there long term so imagine American or other Westerners. I spoke to an Afghan
English speaking old guy who briefly stayed in a neighboring village and then
joined his daughter in Sweden. Even he found the Italian small town life
humdrum. There have been several Africans come and go throughout the years. A
woman in my town who recently died was also married to a Morrocan guy. This
Moroccan guy was in the village since before I was a kid. Up until I was 21, I
didn't even know he was Moroccan as he speaks the dialect perfectly and just
looks like a white guy with big dark hair. One day in the bar, this man called
him a Moroccan and I initially thought he was joking, but it turned out he was
really Moroccan. Even my mom was shocked as he had been in the village since she
was young as well. Just a dude who was always in front of the bar. He had been
in our village since he was in his 20s. As soon as his wife died, he moved back
to Morocco. He was in his late 40s or 50s at this point. He comes back from time
to time, but is mostly in Morocco now. In Rabat to be precise. We connect from
time to time on FB and he also invited me out there, but yeah he is also just
looking for a hookup. People mistake kindness as interest.
All the same, unless you have a familial and emotional connection to a place
which I have with my mom's village as its always been a special place where I
have so many memories, I cannot imagine starting a new life there. My village is
a mountain one though. Some beach towns are definitely more popping and I can
see Americans enjoying beach life, but even the beach towns are dead in winter.
If anybody is interested, here is a documentary on the Italian ghost towns
below. Very funny and crazy and also sad at the same time. My town is nowhere
near the level of some of these as you can still find people out and about, but
when I went to my father's family's town it was so eerie and beautiful at the
same time.
There were like 3 levels to this town and at one point, there were supposedly
10,000 plus people. Now there are only like 500 left. Imagine a town that big
now totally empty! 500 is like nothing for a place that big and nobody was out
so even 500 is likely an exaggeration and likely includes even residents who are
not there full-time. I have also seen videos of people who went in like July and
early August it was still dead. My mom started to get scared when we arrived
there thinking the people were hiding. There was even a huge watch tower in this
town and it was built like a maze. I had never seen a village like that in my
life. Some of those homes looked like they had not been opened since the early
1900s. Whereas my mom's town was mostly depopulated in the 1960s and 1970s, this
place seemed like it was depopulated so much earlier. Apparently, they even
still had a few thousand people up until the 1980s, but an earthquake in the
1980s made it even deader. On the other hand, my mom's village was only like
1,000 max even in its prime. It's just a few large farms and maybe like 5
landowner families and their extended families and one baron and his descendants
who still occupy the village. Our neighboring town which you can walk to in like
30 minutes has more homes and apartments. Now, my mom's town also has some empty
homes, but most of the people who own these homes are just up north, in
Australia, USA, Latin America, or Canada. They still go back from time to time.
Even the ones that have been empty for years will eventually have somebody
return. Also, the homes in my mom's town have mostly been restored and even many
newer homes, but the home's in my dad's ancestral village were old old.
My own great grandparents (mom's maternal side) left for Trento in the 1940s,
but always maintained a residence in the village as did my grandmother's two
eldest sisters. I think in the 1930s and 1940s, there was a shift away from
village life. Not just in Europe, but also in Asia and to a lesser extent in the
Americas. Maybe one day the villages will be revived in some form.
Some mid sized cities may also have potential, but you can even go crazy in some
mid sized Italian cities after some time. Last year, I spent some weeks in
Chieti in Abruzzo. LONG story. Not my kind of town, but many Americans may like
it. Chieti was too large to have the rural countryside charm and too small to
have the convenience of a big city. Pescara which is the nearby beach town was
filled with gypsies too. I don't care much for Central Italy. I prefer south or
far north. Abruzzo still had beautiful mountains, but I can see mountains in
other regions too. Marche is still nice, but honestly Ascoli Piceno is just for
who wants to sit and eat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuRtWt5xMiA
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:29:50 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #14361917 so well-travelled.
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:47:27 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #14886574 if you are in the most boring
Italian village, you can
still take the train to Milan or Rome or Florence for a few days. You can take
a
plane in be in Paris really fast. Then another weekend, even check out the
Balkan countries or go somewhere like Prague. What can you honestly do in
Australia? Maybe a trip to Vietnam? Even Hawaii is still pretty far for them.
I generally agree with you, but the problem with italy is all those Italians.
You really have to like the culture and the people. Australians are much easier
to deal with i think.
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:16:19 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #13136814 Lol disagree. Australians are
obnoxious people who can make even the worst Europeans seem tolerable. Even
their fashion is laughable. A Scottish guy confirmed this to me on a plane. We
talked for about an hour about how obnoxious Australians are.
Australians brag nonstop and they love to swear. My mom's cousins are the most
insufferable people. Love to talk about how rich they are. Every Australian I
know takes nouveau rich to a new level. They are not openly rude and hostile
like many Europeans, but they have a certain passive aggressiveness and they use
sarcasm to cowardly insult people. There is also this guy who restored a home on
my block here in Chicago. He is an Australian who married an American. Most
offensive guy ever. Typical big burly Anglo Australian outback dude. He says
some crazy stuff and he flipped the apartments and threw out this elderly
Ukrainian woman who couldn't afford the $1600 a month he wanted with no second
thought. She was a long time tenant under the previous landlord and paid about
$1,000 a month. He could have just let her continue until she died. What's funny
is the Ukrainian initially thought he was Irish. When I found out he was
Australian, everything made sense.
Anyway, Australia may have less bureaucracy than Italy and other European
countries and of course they speak English. Still, they are the worst people in
the Anglo world. Maybe even worst than South Africans, if you can consider SA to
be Anglo lol.
I knew this other Dutch Australian girl Krystal who used to be a good friend of
mine. She initially seemed like a sweet girl, but she had a very dark side and
had been involved in some huge lawsuit where a former coworker sued their
employer and alleged Krystal made her life a living hell with the bullying. They
worked at some gas station I believe. As time passed, I saw that Krystal would
make the weirdest cheap shots. She also loved to talk about how rich she was.
This other girl I knew in Italy with the spa who went back to Australia was
equally obnoxious. Bragging about how much money she had constantly.
I also dealt with many Australian Lebanese.
I recommend the movie Royal Hotel for a sort of comedy/horror/thriller about
Australia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Hotel_(film)
P.S. I loved Vegemite when I tried it though. Yay!
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:20:26 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #16463956 I have never been to Australia
though. I would go to see my great aunt as I haven't seen her since I was a kid
when she visited Italy, but honestly she is pretty weird too and probably my
least favorite of my grandmother's sisters.
LOL the Australian dude near my house here in Chicago even openly talks about
how much he hates Italians in Melbourne when I told him I have family there.
That's how rude Australians are. They are nothing like say English. Then, he was
trying to persuade my mom to sell him our house. Telling her to retire to
Florida. hahaha.
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:24:17 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #15189245 I'm exaggerating though by saying
they are worst than SA. Afrikaners are some of the worst people to deal with. I
only know one really really nice SA lawyer, but he has a nutty secretary.
English Zimbabweans former Rhodesians are decent though and rich, but seemingly
humble and country.
Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:29:03 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #17265902 Although I get that the girl in
Italy grew up in Australia though until she was 17, so that was her home and yes
for her, Australians are easy to deal with and even with their obnoxiousness,
they are easier for us as Americans to deal with than we can deal with
Europeans. Europeans are harder to connect with. Some Australian tourists are
decent funny people. They do just love the party life and that involves swearing
and drinking. I guess I am just thinking about the countries in terms of
entertainment and stuff to do. From what I hear, Australia is very expensive
too.
Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:22:17 -0800
shithead
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Reply #13345083 Australia is full of Australians
- hard pass. If you took the population of Texas, feminized the males, removed
anything resembling culture, and then exiled the landmass to somewhere between
Indonesia and Antarctica, you'd have a place still more attractive than
Australia.
Thu, 28 Nov 2024 08:55:42 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #15523570 Australia sounds ok to me except
its suffering from drought, & i like water that is good to drink. here in MI, i
have a well as i can't stand any chemicals.
when my mom passes i will move to our house in NC, where i will die.
Thu, 28 Nov 2024 09:07:36 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #11800132 Yes you are right about those
things but what I learned about Australians recently was that they are all very
direct and can seem rude. They also like to fuck with people, I think they call
it taking a piss on someone. It's like a national culture thing. So you can be
openly rude to them back and they will just say no worries.
I think you are being too harsh on australia. It's a beautiful place and the
people are nice once you get used to them.
But yes they cuss all the time, in front of kids also. And yes they do have the
macho angle thing. But it's not unlike Midwest football bros
Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:37:28 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #10383799 they do care about their kiddies
though
gee when i was a kid the most i could do was catch a beaver shot on HBO on 1am
on a school night
https://apnews.com/article/australia-social-media-children-ban-safeguarding-harm-accounts-d0cde2603bdbc7167801da1d00ecd056#
Fri, 29 Nov 2024 05:53:34 -0800
shithead
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Reply #15066856 Australians absolutely cannot
handle having the piss taken out of them by Americans. They are some of the
easiest people on the planet to troll - super thin-skinned and insecure,
especially how they stack up against the United States.
Crocodile Dundee is about the furthest thing in the world from your typical
Australian male, who might as well have been neutered at birth.
Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:02:41 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #16618720 Yup. Most are also not like Steve
Irwin and I also always get the sense that they can dish it out, but can’t
take it back. I’ve met all sorts of Australians of all different backgrounds
from old stock heritage Australians to various European and Middle Eastern
diasporas who live there. Most are similar. I think the most famous Australian
is Rupert Murdoch. ahhahaha
Olivia Newton John was alright. Oh but she was born in Cambridge and also had
lived in the States. She grew up in Australia for some time though.
Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:04:22 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #16758017 Australia is sort of a desolate
land in some places too. I remember that film about the Aboriginal children
Rabbit Proof Fence.
Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:52:03 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #12339250 guys who owe child support go to
Australia
Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:36:41 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #15680803 I dunno i hung out with really
burly bros and broads there, the ladies were very tough
Mayne you hung out with thai elephant pajama pant backpacker bros? Why the Ozzie
hate shithead?
I am not an expert on this
Australians strike me as more akin to uS Midwestern types than crocodile dundee,
maybe Texans depending on where you go, and of course Californians in the big
cities
Australia is definitely desolate and very dry
Still it's a cool place with nice people and a beautiful country
Melbourne had just a scatter of homeless drug addicts which felt so strange to
me, being in a western type city and not seeing legions of drug addicts laying
around on the street in the main business center
If you bailed on child support I imagine australia would get you extradition
quickly
Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:47:05 -0800
zerosugar
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Reply #19742056 I guess the main thing I dislike
about Australians is they act like Australia is the epicenter of the universe. I
like the USA naturally as I was born here and grew up here, but I also know you
can live a good life in many places especially if you have money. This
Australian Italian girl acted like Australia was so great and she couldn’t be
anywhere else. Early on, she even escaped back to Australia. Then this
Australian flipper by my house here in Chicago constantly brags about how great
Australia is and how much better it is than the USA, telling me I should visit.
They are just so big headed. Like why is he here in Chicago and why did he get
married here if Australia is so great?
Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:57:57 -0800
marlon from
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Reply #18715567 foreigner men flock to places to
get laid. Thailand, Eastern Europe, we all know about it. but lots of
foreigners come to USA to get laid. it's the women to blame. they don't like
the men here, but they like foreigners. my mom married a foreign man who came
from a place she never heard of, just to get back at her dad. He was a decent
man, my grandpa, but he disowned me for drinking at my sister's wedding, so i
can understand.
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