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Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:16:05 -0800
Wily from private IP, post #16778559

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Ukrainians and Russians in Shanghai

With most of the Westerners gone, they're basically the modal WGIC now, and their numbers are maybe the only expat group that's gone up in the last 4 years.

They DON'T get along here.  Not even the women in the cat rescue WeChat groups that I'm in.  One girl started putting up ads for donations for animals in
Ukraine and got cursed at / purged from the "Cat Rescue Shanghai" group.  Then all the Ukrainians got purged.  But the "China Animal Rescues" group purged all
the Russians. 

I can't tell the difference between their languages, but I see a lot of Russians/Ukrainians in the malls and kids spaces here.  Like at the wild animal park the
other day, a large family being really pushy for photos of a giraffe right next to my kid, causing me to say something in English, which they didn't really
speak.  The dad was like early 30s and probably should be in a trench line somewhere.  


Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:27:52 -0800
Wily from private IP
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 Angry   Also not sure if it's the post-Communist state thing but the Russians are maybe even worse than the Chinese in
standing in lines. Like at Shanghai Disney, some woman yelling for Fyodor while he pushes through 30 minutes of folks standing in lines to get to her spot.
Since 99% of the people here are Asian, they really stand out when they do this too.  

But the really odd ones are the Kyrgs and Kazakhs and what not. Played poker the other day with one at a random expat game, pretty tatted up, really bad at
hold'em, and studying "engineering" at some 2nd-tier university here.   Also spoke basically no Chinese and really bad English, so I'm wondering how he survives
here.  


Tue, 17 Dec 2024 00:53:26 -0800
2tierreality from private IP
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 Angry   How much does the Russia/Ukraine dynamic parallel the China/Taiwan dynamic?  I remember there was a kid I went to
school with, his dad's family came to the U.S. from Ukraine.  I was always like "Oh, you're Ukrainian?" And he was always sure to correct me and say "No, we're
Russian." They were Russian, but they made a point to say they came from Ukraine, not Russia proper. I didn't understand as a kid that you could have an
ethnicity and be from a country not uniformly tied to that ethnicity.  And I thought Borscht was gross. CSB.


Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:44:43 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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 Angry   Ukrainian Israelis anyone?


Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:30:28 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
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 Angry   It's not polite to say this, but that area is a bit degenerate. Besides good literature and some music, Russia punches
way above it's weight in terms of aspiring geopolitical influence when compared with its cultural soft power. Like, how many Russian students have you had in
your classes? 0. And that's for a supposedly major world economy. There are 10x more Dutch than Russians in shanghai.
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