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Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:16:56 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP, post #13241605

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737MAX a case of MBAs running a company

https://youtu.be/DcB31RgeL50?si=jNjODxXw0-_7ci-J

Engineers getting pushed around by MBAs


Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:59:24 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #19108162
 any big company is like that.  


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:32:05 -0700
Feic from private IP
Reply #11877868
 I was a Boeing shareholder in 1999. Co. then had 900 million shares outstanding and was doing $55 billion in sales.
Today the Co. has like 600 million shares and has sales of about $75 billion. Can you spell BUYBACKS?
In 1999 there was a lot of press about how Boeing was making airplanes but not a lot of money all while dot coms with little sales were going through the roof.
That is when Wall Street started bringing in the MBA/Jack Welch types to Boeing.
Funny that today Wall Street is loud about blaming Boeing when it WAS WALL STREET UBER SHAREHOLDER VALUE logic that created this mess in first place.


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:49:36 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #15563262
 These high-paid executive types all talk a big game.  People have short memories, so they forget all the lies they
hear.  Justify your giant pay package by giving never-ending bullshit. Seen it first hand.  People want to believe it, do they have a choice?  u roll ur eyes,
they'll say ur not a team player, out u go.


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:56:01 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #13999034
 in my case, a keebler elf showed me up in front of his girlfriends, by talking a big game.  place was a cult.  drink
that kool-aid, u suckups


Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:33:25 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #13699637
 So they didn't want to train pilots so they could use it as a sales pitch to airlines hey you can just put your 737
guys on it with no training, and to do that they had to make no major changes to the training manual which is how the whole thing about plane changing pitch was
hidden from pilots

Then when Ethiopia air training bro contacted Boeing about this the legal department couldn't reveal anything due to legal liability from lion air 737 crash so
they basically said no comment to his very pointed questions

And then Ethiopia air went down the same way


Fri, 14 Mar 2025 14:17:09 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #14039768
 corporations, u gotta love 'em


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:36:50 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #12431606
 🥺  The f/o in that Lion Air crash was just hapless.  Totally out of his depth, and he had thousands of hours on
type.  I had occasion to become decently-ish familiar with the Max QRH and, reading about how that dude didn't even know some pretty basic non-normal checklist,
it was totally astounding.  Even accounting for the stress of the situation.

Of course, that's no excuse for crews not getting trained up properly on the existence of, to say nothing of the proper care and feeding of, MCAS.  Which is in
the final analysis all about Boeing selling airlines on a common 737 type rating for all the NG and Max jets.  Which in turn is MBA-bait to the people running
massive 737 fleets like Southwest.


Shanaaaaa.  They bought their tickets.  They knew what they were getting into.  I say, let them crash.


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:48:22 -0700
Andy from private IP
Reply #19670185
 I flew in a 737-MAX8 this morning.  Not sure what to make of all this.


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:03:31 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #19239449
 Will fly one saturday


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:52 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #15317145
 Guy I know is biggest airplane parts logistics company in America, he refuses to let his family fly

Discuss


Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:25:53 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #14582162
 You'd like to think that every piece of an airplane, however insignificant, has a paper trail behind it all the way to
a dump truck hauling ore from a mine.  You'd like to think that every replacement part fitted to an airplane, particularly here in the USA, is legit and
documented and not counterfeit.

But you'd be wrong.


Tue, 18 Mar 2025 13:50:17 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #14717679
 NASA was buying parts off Ebay for some project i forget


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:41:15 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #17719171
 An aircraft I flew was destroyed in a crash by another pilot on the very next flight after I flew it.  Ultimately it
was pilot error - and pretty bad at that.

The airplane had been repaired with unapproved parts, one of which failed and caused the aircraft's electrical system to be highly degraded.  The failure itself
would not have prevented the airplane from flying, but instead the pilot fixated on working around the failure while flying at night and scud-running. Dude
basically had a CFIT and somehow managed not to die.

And when I say "unapproved parts" I mean parts which were not made for aviation at all. Someone decided it was worth cutting a cost corner at the risk of some
unknown pilot's safety.  Total stricher move.




Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:02:26 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #18291626
 Yea they call those things flying cans don't they

The Cessna death rate must be outta this world

Things get more serious when you have meat puppets on board


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:02:39 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #14394324
 Or shall I say wet cargo


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:03:19 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #18546162
 I watch a lot of the mentour videos, it's much better than aircraft disasters because he technically explains the
failure


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:05:07 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #17638985
 So this dude is in charge of commercial aviation parts, engines and all that

This is stuff going to delta or american airlines

He says not safe 


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 19:18:12 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #11562829
 😮  The Cessna i trained in back in 1991 was twenty years old at the time.  They teach u to land if engine dies, on
a road or a field, but that never happened.  hard to believe i survived, once i was flying solo, i was 17 yrs old, & i attempted a power-on stall, ended up
upside down, i remember seeing the snow-covered ground out the window


Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:56:02 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #17386394
 Ahh marlon, you entered a spin from a power-on stall.  But it would appear you negotiated that alright eh.




@12431606 Andy 🥺 @11562829 Andy 😮
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