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Thu, 17 Apr 2025 06:49:45 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP, post #11969054

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Trump administration threatens Harvard with foreign student ban

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1egdy24v7po.amp

Ok I get how the executive branch can withhold federal funding, but how can they prohibit foreign students? Can they compel the state dept to stop issuing
student visas for Harvard students? Can they compel ICE to deport foreigners from harvard?


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 07:01:08 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #11177994
 🥺  Hope Trump is joking, foreign students are the only brains around.


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 07:13:41 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #19980086
 well, let me explain things from the perspective of some people (not mine, but its what some people think), legal
immigration changes demographics too and is ultimately much more problematic to americans than illegal immigration. think about it, most illegals are not taking
jobs americans would do. its the legal immigrants who are doing that. maga are not going to wave a wand and make things better though. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:19:04 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #14194944
 What do you call an American at a top physics PhD program?

The dumb guy


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:42:33 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #12812974
 I bet we are still training death squads at the School of the Americas.


Oh hey, hold on a sec. There's a knock at my doNO CARRIER


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:53:58 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #16799104
 @whiteguyinchinaTest assuming
you are not really wiley and even if you are are, did you get Chinese citizenship? Unless you are Chinese and specifically a Chinese national, why would you
want your country taken over by foreigners who are Indian and Chinese mostly? I am using the logic of most Americans now in my questioning. What happens in the
USA is ultimately irrelevant for me as I am a dual citizen and can leave at anytime if stuff really goes down here. 

All the same, an American president should be investing in Americans. White American students in particular don't qualify for minority scholarships or DEI and
oftentimes have to take out student loans. Trump missed a mark by not supporting student loan forgiveness which was Americans First. The GOP sadly has become
flooded with hillbillies who are skeptical of education and anything cultured. What the dumb amongst these hillbillies don't realize is while they are
encouraging their kids to be farmers, plumbers, and Walmart greeters, brown immigrants are encouraging their kids to be doctors. So who will control the country
in 50 years? 

The USA should be pushing more white kids into STEM and other fields that are important. Regardless of what people like shithead (presumably somebody who votes
for Democrats mostly and considers himself a member of the left) say, the USA is very much an ethnostate. Aside from Argentina and Canada, it's the only
American country thats not almost entirely mestizo and still majority white. This country does have Anglo roots and was primarily settled by people from the
British Isles. If you do DNA tests on heritage Americans (especially Southerners), it's not true they are largely mixed. They are mostly of heritage from the
British Isles. They don't even get German at high amounts. Those with German, Central European, and Northern European heritage belong to immigrant diasporas
that came later on and are mostly in the Midwest still living in their own communities. This whole nation of mutts and melting pot is a myth thats promoted by
the left. The USA is much more a mosaic. I don't think it's racist to say that. There are many immigrant groups who practice endogamy very strictly such as
South Asians. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:01:07 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #12996738
 Westerners are not dumb. Westerners built most of society. It was Westerners who helped ban the practice of Sati in
India too and protect the rights of widows. JD Vance wanted to attack Italian and other European immigrant communities and say that Indians are model
immigrants, but look at all the expired sodas in 711 and how they run businesses. Is it really superior to Westerners? Is it smart or just scammy? Look at how
Asian immigrants run black hair shops? Look at how they treat black employees. Is it superior to how whites treat blacks? Whites treat blacks better than they
treat other whites. Indian and Chinese and Korean and Arab bosses mostly treat blacks like slaves. 

Also, you called Italy a shithole presumably because you felt comfortable attacking a country thats classified as "white," but would you say that about Eastern
countries that have open defecation in the streets? Has JD Vance been to India yet? Former admin threatened me as a racist. He wanted to attack Italians, but
ID'd himself as South Asian not acknowledging the shortcomings of his country. There is not wide scale open defecation in Italy. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27775327

If third worlders were so smart, they would fix the problems in their own countries first. European countries have largely been fixed and are now wealthy
compared to what they were in the post WWII period. 



Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:10:35 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #16050950
 Do you really think third world people can fix the problems with the USA? The last significant wave of European
immigrants who came here was in the 1990s during the Yugoslavian war. They were white and a good majority of them were Christian. Bosnians are Muslim and a
portion of Albanians, but certainly not with the same devoutness as Arabs or Pakistanis. Either way, although eastern shifted, these people still share many of
the same traditions as earlier European diasporas. 

Although Benjamin Franklin was afraid of Germans flooding Pennsylvania, these were still his European brothers who share most of the same traditions even if
some of them were weirdo Amish. 

After the 1990s, the only immigration the USA gets including legal immigration is nonwhite, so why should the average MAGA or even just the average white
American who cares about preserving any remnants of America as an Anglo European state support legal immigration? Legal immigration still changes demographics.


Let's also use England as an example. What do you think of when you think of England? I no longer think of the late Queen Elizabeth II or Charles. I no longer
even think of football hooligans. Who are the mayors of major cities in England now? How many South Asians were in England in 1950? How many are there today?
This is not an attack on India or Pakistan. They are great societies in their own respect and great histories, but will English people and English heritage as
we know it still exist in the future if they continue down this path and if everybody thinks how the far left think? This is a silent genocide. 




Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:13:23 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #17064756
 Also, it's important to acknowledge the differences these societies have with European ones. They are great in their
own respects, but different from the USA. The USA is loosely a European colony with European traditions... and largely yes European heritage. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:36:32 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #17753494
 Assimilation theory (i.e. legal immigrants who assimilate are just like us) is also a threat to nationalism if you can
even describe MAGA as a nationalist movement.A person who is nationalistic will see assimilation as both a threat to European nationalism and non European
nationalism because you are essentially destroying both the culture of the immigrant and the host country so two cultures are destroyed. 

Now will these Harvard students go back to their home country and help their home countries or will they stay in USA? That’s a question. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:08:15 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #12977913
 It was just a joke about the PhD thing. A joke. In response to Marlon.

The original question was more of a legal query. Does the executive branch have such broad reaching power? I mean it's quite specific to one private university.
I didn't think in the american political system the executive had such power. Seems too specific to be constitutional. I mean you could ban all foreign
students, or some country, but can you prevent one private uni from accepting foreign students? And what would be the enforcement mechanism? 

I am not commenting on immigration or race at all in this thread. That is your tangent dear.


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:26:54 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #11390846
 Your joke unfortunately reinforces Vivek’s statement about Americans and really all Westerners being lazy. I
guarantee you the Harvard student isn’t white and if you are white unless you are top 1 percent with legacy or extremely high scores, you aren’t getting
into Harvard. 

Also if we want to circle back to race, why are their best women only dating white men and the worst white women are dating non white men if whites and
westerners are so inferior and lazy as Vivek claims? 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:41:49 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #12078082
 And if Trump supporters are really racist and MAGA is really a racist movement (pro tip it’s not because it’s
largely composed of non whites now), then why should it matter if the nonwhite immigrant is a legal Harvard student or somebody who entered here illegally and
committed a crime? If you believe in assimilation theory, you will think there is a big difference and if you are a nationalist, you know both the legal and
illegal change demographics. I can’t be a narrow American nationalist as I am not an Anglo, but if you are an Anglo or anybody with roots in the early days of
this country, I just don’t know how you can support legal immigration especially after the 1990s. Most whites of Anglo and Northern European descent are not
nationalists though. Most nationalists are non white. White nationalism aside from a few fringe online incels is non existent in this country. 

An American nationalist, I am not by default. However, I am an Italian nationalist to a certain extent in that you are only Italian if both parents, all 4
grandparents, and all 8 great grandparents are either Italian or belong to a historic ethnic minority from Italy. It’s harder to make a case for American
nationalism, but not impossible. Do I believe America is a true mosaic? No, but it’s also not entirely a melting pot. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 11:54:26 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #17934119
 Immigration is a gray area. Bills are pushed through congress and the courts have their power, but its still primarily
under the Executive branch. One thing is for sure, these states have zero power. Local governments that make sanctuary cities have even less power. 

North Korea is one of the only true nationalistic countries alive. They do not even allow non black hair dye. The tiny portion of immigrants they have are used
for spying and propaganda purposes. 


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 14:44:42 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #12584607
 Immigration is a fiction created in 1800s. Before that people just moved places.


Thu, 17 Apr 2025 18:28:24 -0700
Wily from private IP
Reply #19818941
 I'm a Harvard grad who repatriated myself back to my ethnostate of China except for about 50 days a year when I stay
in and look at expensive houses in SoCal with a Shanghainese Realtor.  One week last year, I flew from San Diego to Shanghai to Singapore and ate at a Ramen
Nagi in each of the malls I visited in all three cities. Actually I couldn't bring myself to eat ramen a third time, so I had chili crab instead near Marina Bay
in Singapore.  Well-worth the $170 for a 2.5 kilo monster of a crab from the Bay of Bengal!

I am a soulless Globalist. Business is Booming.  


Fri, 18 Apr 2025 08:14:30 -0700
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #14585048
 oh i'm also not trying to say with certainty that you are whiteguyinchina. its not my theory at all, but others have
wondered. i sort of thought for a long time you were borntodieonce. 


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