Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:37:01 -0700 zerosugar from private IP, post #10354583 /all RIP To Human First Pass Document Review? Using actual humans to perform an initial review isn't gone yet, but the days are numbered. Lawyers are still using real, live people to take a first crack at document review, but much like the “I’m not dead yet” guy from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, it’s a job that will be stone dead soon. Because there are a lot of deeply human tasks that AI will struggle to replace, but getting through a first run of documents doesn’t look like one of them. At last week’s Relativity Fest, the star of the show was obviously Relativity aiR for Review, which the company moved to general availability. In conjunction with the release, Relativity pointed to impressive results the product racked up during the limited availability period including Cimplifi reporting that the product cut review time in half and JND finding a 60 percent cut in costs. “We’ve used Relativity aiR for Review on multiple live projects with tremendous success,” said Mike Cichy, Regional Manager of Litigation Support at Foley & Lardner LLP. “In one case, we had an extremely tight production deadline; aiR for Review completed the review, which would have taken over 15 people and three weeks of time, in less than one week, all while delivering results that far outperformed what we’ve seen in traditional human review.” A recurring tale among early users was a belt-and-suspenders approach to first pass review, maintaining a team of human reviewers as a quality assurance measure. It’s a natural response for a terminally overcautious profession, but it’s also one that multiple early adopters said they ultimately would abandon as unnecessary. In fact, more than one said the humans were just… more wrong. Not released to the general public yet — but coming soon — Relativity also previewed its aiR for Privilege product capable of identifying privileged documents and drafting a consistent, single voice privilege log. Troutman Pepper, already using the limited availability product, anticipates it will cut privilege review time by more than 50 percent. One testimonial provided at the keynote shared that the product correctly found a clutch of hundreds of privileged documents that the human reviewers had missed. Turning over first pass to the computers isn’t entirely new. We’ve had TAR procedures that could tackle this for some time, but lawyers spent the last decade performatively bad mouthing tech review in the courts. Now, armed with generative AI, attorneys seem to have discovered a new level of trust. Especially senior lawyers who are actually engaging with discovery platforms for the first time. How long will attorneys keep humans in the loop for their own peace of mind? As Relativity’s CAO/CLO Adam Weiss told me, “the more ubiquitous this technology becomes, the runway gets shortened considerably.” In other words, lawyers won’t let AI take the wheel out of the gate, but the more customers are willing to say “trust us, we did the same thing and you’ll soon realize it’s costly and useless,” it’s going to get harder to justify keeping the human first pass reviewers around. Which is good news for clients and attorneys trying to do more and higher level work. It’s not particularly great news for folks working as contract attorneys to pick up work on brute force review projects. There’s still a market for alternative legal service providers — collecting and loading up documents remains a skill that outside consultants can perform better and cheaper than a law firm. But anyone out there with a business model reliant on throwing hundreds of bodies at a problem should start rethinking. https://abovethelaw.com/2024/09/rip-to-human-first-pass-document-review/ #LawFirm #Technology Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:46:11 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #18770333 Wow, this means less work for attorneys in between jobs, new grads, and for people who simply don't want the stress of working in litigation and dealing with firm life. How will shithead continue to travel? I saw gossip about this for a while, but now its really happening. My email used to be flooded with ads for doc review jobs. I mean nonstop spam! The past month, I see nothing when I open my email except for clothing advertisements and news notices. I won't get into the politics of AI now. They will start with doc review and other office tasks and then slowly eliminate most legal jobs and then any and all office jobs. All that will remain are manual labor jobs, but they will eventually find a way for the bots to do those. I don't mean to scare anybody. I hope my prediction is wrong. I hope this article is an exaggeration. I hope people will stay working, but right now it seems bleak. P.S. Joe Patrice seems like a jerk. Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:51:26 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #10542461 BTW, shithead is just one guy, but there are many like him. Also, other jobs such as immigration and/or real estate which mostly involve filling forms seem on the way out. I guess we can all try our hand at the stock market. More and more court hearings are also online. I notice more and more pro se folks in the courtrooms. Tue, 29 Apr 2025 12:53:20 -0700 whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #14772250 Yea exactly Even the california bar exam committee is using AI to make up questions for bar exam The thing with AI is that it doesn't have to work perfectly or even better than humans. It just has to be cheaper since in its very essence it is labor replacement for benefit of capital. Worse customer service. Worse results for public. It doesn't really matter as long as they are like 70% there Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:28:27 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #19635734 some doctors will always have their jobs too like surgeons. in 2100, even they may be replaced. Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:28:44 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #13823522 its now man against machine. Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:15:23 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #15763820 Well the office tasks will be cut first. The paralegals will be a thing of the past too. Unless legislation is passed or something, I predict the elimination of 90 percent of legal jobs. A few months ago when I saw this ad, I thought it was just the ramblings of a paranoid conspiracy theorist. I now see this warning was true. It’s funny how they have created limits on human cloning for ethical considerations, but there are not yet limits on AI. AI has cited non existent statues when it drafts legal complaints and fake quotes too, but you are right, all AI has to do is 70 percent accuracy. https://ibb.co/BVFswVxX While they will start with office jobs, soon manual labor jobs will be hit. Have you seen those Optimus bot created Musk? There are videos of them working as bartenders. They are teaching them to drive, so taxi and uber drivers may be a thing of the past. I even saw a video where they were training to to fold shirts. Aside from AI, this downturn in the economy caused by Trump will crash things more. We are in for some bad bad times. Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:20:11 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #15883668 *created by musk btw i had posted before the theory musk was posting under the name “antichrist” on 4chan. is there anything more demonic than him replacing nearly all human jobs with bots? we are going to see huge gaps between the 1 percent or rather the 0.1 percent and the rest of the world. The wealthy will be the tiny few who are controlling the bots. musk also tells guys to have ten kids. how can they have ten kids with no money to support them? will america be his farm? if something is not done to stop ai, we will see families on the streets. Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:23:57 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #19388631 Im not some Bernie stan and he is nuts sometimes, but he is right on AI. Kamala was one of the worst candidates ever and now we have Trump and Musk has nonstop power. Watching Bezos impress his girlfriend by flying her to space while people are broke af in this country was so cringe. https://youtu.be/zKMtIY_2gZE?feature=shared Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:53:24 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #19511035 Here is the video of optimus. This robot took the job of a caterer. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP861dbMc/ Wed, 30 Apr 2025 08:47:12 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #12404675 https://youtu.be/spRxpSVKE_M?feature=shared Fri, 02 May 2025 11:36:29 -0700 Blee from private IP Reply #10600532 It's weird to think that the job that got me into my entire career will not exist much longer, if it even does now. Fresh out of law school, before I was even barred, I started working on a compliance database for a healthcare company. It was a Fortune 50, and we were capturing a few dozen fields from every client contract they had. I stuck around, one thing led to another, and twenty years later Managing Senior Counsel. But if they'd had AI tools back then, I would have never even gotten my foot in the door. Fri, 02 May 2025 12:37:44 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #16105346 Look at @BleeTest coming back out of nowhere for more punishment after six months of absence. Excellent! Where is @FINDCJTest when you need him? Fri, 02 May 2025 12:50:38 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #12548353 @BleeTest Its sad. Not everybody who goes to school wants to end up in a courtroom. Some of us want stress free jobs. Lets face it, in some parts of the country, million dollar cases are rare and there is no fun or rewards in suing broke people or helping two broke spouses divorce.Replies require login.
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