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Wed, 11 Jun 2025 16:31:47 -0700 Andy from private IP, post #11502015 /all CA Governor has gone crazy. New lawsuit filed - Newsom v. Trump - governor sues the president I am pissed off and this was my chance to do something, so I took the opportunity-- I filed an amicus brief on behalf of a small group of attorneys who have grave concerns about what the governor and the governor's attorneys are doing here. They are knowingly violating their Oaths to support the U.S. Constitution and Federal law by promoting the governor's policy positions on his orders, which is contrary to law. The Federal court should discipline these government attorneys for failing to uphold Federal law. Follow along with the case if you like, 3:25-cv-04870-CRB in the Northern District of California. #News #Politics #PublicFigures Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:59:01 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #17300208 Thanks for your service. Newsom is crazy and the mainstream media claiming the protests are peaceful is a joke. While I can have compassion for many situations involving somebody undocumented, what is happening now is just insane. Its wild Newsom still thinks he has a chance as president. Thu, 12 Jun 2025 10:18:10 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #13697635 Court granted the amicus request and I'm appearing at today's hearing. Thu, 12 Jun 2025 11:45:37 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #17366533 😮 I just received a call from a "concerned citizen" who accused me of treason under California law for filing my group's amicus brief in this case. I corrected his mistaken beliefs about treason and addressed all of his concerns, but when I did that he just said "I disagree" and hung up. What a crazy world we live in where a legal filing asserting allegiance to the United States is called treason. Fri, 13 Jun 2025 06:27:29 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #13088779 District Court sides with Newsom, 9th Circuit pulls an Uno reverse card and sides with Trump. Hearing on Monday. Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:24:15 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #10386860 Good. of course the Pres. can call up the National Guard. has it been done before? Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:20:42 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #17601072 Yes. Bush in 1992 and Kennedy in Alabama in 1963 are the closest analogs. Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:44:50 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #14202618 oh yes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:47:00 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #18609182 https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/us/los-angeles-riots-fast-facts/index.html May 3, 1992 - Over 1,100 Marines, 600 Army soldiers, and 6,500 National Guard troops patrol the streets of Los Angeles. Fri, 13 Jun 2025 11:51:05 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #10041419 https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2025/06/11/marines-los-angeles-immigration-protests/84130246007/ I fought for the Constitution. Using Marines against protests disgraces it. | Letters Detroit Free Press I am a Marine combat veteran. I wore the uniform with pride. Not for glory or politics, but to serve something greater than myself: the Constitution of the United States. I saw war up close. I lost brothers. I lived with the weight of what it means to take a life in the name of liberty. But I never imagined I’d live to see the same Marine Corps deployed on American soil — not to protect life or respond to disaster, but to stand guard against the very people we swore to protect. That is not leadership. That is not patriotism. That is cowardice. The U.S. military is not a private security force for any president And it’s a disgrace. Need a break? Play the USA TODAY Daily Crossword Puzzle. Let me be clear: the U.S. military is not a private security force for any president or politician. Our loyalty is not to the office of power, but to the American people and the Constitution we swore to defend. That oath doesn’t end when we hang up our uniform. It lives on, and it binds us to speak out when power is abused — even when it’s our own. Especially when it’s our own. Throughout our history, the military has been a symbol of honor and restraint. We’ve always drawn a sacred line: we do not turn our force inward against civilians. To cross that line is not only a constitutional crisis — it’s a moral collapse. But now, we see uniformed Marines stationed around government buildings — not to serve, but to suppress. We see military force used to intimidate protesters, stifle dissent, and project strength where there should be humility. We see our brothers and sisters in arms being told, directly or indirectly, that their duty is to silence fellow Americans. That’s not defense. That’s not order. That’s not justice. That is repression. Get the Wayne County Headlines newsletter in your inbox. Headlines from Wayne County, delivered on Fridays. Delivery: Fri Your Email This isn't 'law and order.' It's repression Some Americans cheer this on. They call it “law and order,” as if safety is more valuable than freedom. But order without justice is not peace — it is submission. Security without liberty is not safety — it is fear. We don’t salute uniforms because they exist — we salute the principles they’re supposed to uphold. The founders of this country understood the danger of turning soldiers into political tools. That’s why we have the Posse Comitatus Act. That’s why our system separates civilian and military power. Because when the military becomes a weapon of domestic politics, democracy dies with a boot on its neck. Anti-immigration raid protests are continuing into the fourth night as the Pentagon deployed active-duty U.S. Marines. To the commandant of the Marine Corps: you are failing your Marines. Allowing this misuse of the Corps is not a neutral act. It’s complicity. You dishonor the memory of those who died believing we were fighting for something nobler. I say this not out of bitterness, but out of love for what the Corps meant to me — what it’s supposed to mean to all of us. America: This is about the soul of our republic To every American: this moment is not just about troops on streets. It’s about the soul of our republic. It’s about whether we still believe that power must answer to the people, not the other way around. Because if we stay silent now, if we normalize this erosion of liberty, we will wake up in a country where democracy exists in name only, guarded by soldiers who forgot what they were fighting for. I fought for the Constitution. I still would. But I will never stand by while it’s trampled by the very institution I once called family. We are better than this. And if we still believe in America, we must demand better — before it's too late. Robert Rolls Highland Park Fri, 13 Jun 2025 15:23:05 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #16342958 If he is from Highland Park (IL I assume) then he is extremely liberal. Sorry, but when is a line drawn? They want to cherry pick and supported killing an unarmed woman at the capital and calling people who were largely unarmed “insurrectionists,” but when their side does worse, oh they are peaceful protestors. Libertarians are also scumbags and everything that’s wrong with the country. They have so many answers when it comes to the Feds, but zero answers when state and local governments become corrupt. It’s almost like they are the last gasp of the confederacy. I wish the military would have come here to Chicago when there was nonstop looting and even curfews were implemented by former Mayor Lori Lightfoot. Downtown Chicago is no longer what it used to be. 7 floors of a Macys looted because police were told to stand back. I can feel compassion for people who have families here like the woman with cancer whose mom was deported. Sure, such situations should be dealt with on a case by case basis with compassion. However, civil unrest and destroying entire cities necessitates action that the local and state government clearly are unwilling to take. Oh but the libertarians will cry out “martial law is coming.” Fri, 13 Jun 2025 15:35:18 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #12291949 very good Sugar Fri, 13 Jun 2025 15:36:45 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #10029111 Sure Ron Paul seemed cool when we were kids in 2008, but growing up is realizing what a flawed ideology libertarianism is! Wtf do we have a federal government? So they can just sit around and look pretty? If the libertarians had their way, we would have wide open borders, dentists would be free to perform heart surgery because "muh regulations" and "muh state laws should triumph," no vaccinations, and heroin would be legally sold to your kids. Thats the sick world the Pauls want. I still think Ron has some cool points like when he talks about gold, but honestly his policies in action would be crazy. LOL, at Rand worrying about if his maid would get deported. Trump is already caving anyway and wants to allow illegal farm workers to stay. That crazy Noem who shouldn't have any job is already saying they can self deport, be given $1,000 to leave, and then come back. They do not have money for student loans though. lol. Citizen proles always suffer. LOL, USA do not have money for education and healthcare for their own citizen. Until every American has free education and universal health, its hard to make a case that anybody else who is not a citizen should be entitled to money. American citizens live on the streets here, but oh the wealthy farmers need cheap labor. Sat, 14 Jun 2025 06:24:47 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #18656716 Libertarians are 0.5% of the vote. Crazy. Sat, 14 Jun 2025 07:36:24 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #13492091 Believe it or not, I know a few people who wanted to vote for Gary Johnson. Most of them were pretty small minded. There are of course some mainstream politicians in the Senate and Congress who promote libertarian ideas (even if not full on libertarians) and I feel these ideas became increasingly popular in the past 15 years or so. Laissez-faire economics is also a hallmark of the libertarians. Federal regulations are needed in many areas because obviously there are plenty of states are filled with ignorant people so regulations should exist to protect the vulnerable. Also, when it comes to issues like certain types of licensing, food standards, and environmental issues, there definitely should be a federal standard where the state fails to implement them. For example when it comes to food, we can let the state go above that standard, but never below it. The libertarians would make it so the corporations and state governments can do what they want. Zero consumer protections too. A company fucks over tons of consumers, the libertarians would say screw the FTC, them Feds are evil let the corporation continue to fuck people even if its a monopoly. Sat, 14 Jun 2025 07:39:54 -0700 zerosugar from private IP Reply #13735302 Libertarianism is very different from communism but ultimately similar. Some of the ideas sound nice, but when you actually learn about it, its deeply flawed and would lead to the worst type of chaos. Rand Paul believes that letting thugs destroy a city and allowing a local and/or state government to do nothing is better than the Feds having any type of intervention because that means "muh martial law is coming." Sat, 14 Jun 2025 08:35:10 -0700 marlon from private IP Reply #18611597 when we were kids in 2008, geez i'm oldReplies require login.
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