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Fri, 05 Sep 2025 08:05:23 -0700 Andy from private IP, post #12949761 /all The Legal Tech Collective on Facebook is kind of a joke Basically, these folks are all lawyers who consider themselves technically proficient, however, all most of them are doing is using the latest trendy web application SaaS platform to get more work done-- and all of these services require a monthly spend. Also, these services could disappear overnight, leaving the data and all the investment in data entry simply gone. Virtually no one in this group has any independently produced, original techniques or software to share, except yours truly of course. So when I posted my X11 application introduction, I was told it was over the heads of 99% of people in the group, which I guess it is. My point is that a "technically proficient" attorney is an absurdly low standard. These folks foolishly believe they know what they are doing, but are really suckers for all the snake oil that's available, such as every startup that's just repackaging TensorFlow and passing it off as their own. Where is the originality and the real, actual code, or innovation? My experience with the Legal Tech Collective only confirms my running joke that I am the greatest lawyer-programmer in the world. #LawFirm #Technology Fri, 05 Sep 2025 08:37:28 -0700 whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #13468354 👍 You no doubt are. Do u think u could make more money partnering or working for some startup which aims to gut the legal profession? Fri, 05 Sep 2025 09:17:29 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #10598641 I probably could, lol. Already sort of doing it with one of my colleagues who has developed an A.I. immigration lawyer platform for consumers. It's freaking awesome so far. Check it out: https://www.immigen.ai/ Fri, 05 Sep 2025 10:20:15 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #17419355 My latest post: "Judging by all the posts on here about the latest trendy SaaS offerings, I think folks need to refocus on innovation and technical proficiency, and do some deep thinking about how they interact with technology. All of the tools I'm seeing people post about require a monthly spend and could disappear overnight. What would happen to your law firms if the many startups that simply repackage TensorFlow and pass their white label creations off as innovative randomly pull the plug? I think people should consider building their workflows around free or open source software, or adapting existing open source/free software tools whose data they will control. Example, I run my own on-premise email and calendar servers with Postfix and Radicale on Linux, my own web server, my own file server and law firm portal, and my own software development server. Total spend on cloud providers for my 12-person law firm? $0 per month, saving probably $25,000 per year and retaining all my data. What I saw with Google Workspace was that the departed employee accounts were costing me hundreds of dollars a month, but I had to retain them for compliance purposes. Now I just pay for the office internet connection and the one-time spend on server hardware that lasts many years. I'm the I.T. guy, but there are also plenty of Linux system administrators out there who can handle my setup, so it's realistic for a law firm to have the same stack with Red Hat Enterprise Linux. That's my long way of saying the coolest technology I have used lately is an on-premise Linux stack on several machines that does everything my law firm needs to do. Saves tons of money." Crickets. It figures, lol. Fri, 05 Sep 2025 19:08:56 -0700 whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #10292420 👍 When they said it went over the heads of 99% of people on the forum, they might have been generous with that 1%. Seriously tho what do u expect? People did not go to law school because they were good at math or computers or business. Its like trying to get opinions on case law from a bunch of IT bros. I also think lawyers view technology as an enemy and rightly so. The printer and PC and internet has eliminated the small town law firm option. Before it was all mystery and lawyers would sit in offices behind an air of mystery while on the back end their paralegals filled out court forms and charged a lot for that knowledge. Now anyone can get a divorce or a will online. To be fair though if I read that you save 25k on IT costs, I would reply "ok bro I am down to save 25k what do I do?" But I would also not open a law office. Sat, 06 Sep 2025 00:15:46 -0700 2tierreality from private IP Reply #18669205 🤣 You can blame me for wasting your time, I was the one who led you there. Sat, 06 Sep 2025 03:50:59 -0700 Andy from private IP Reply #15746216 I do appreciate the invitation to check it out, which I did. My trashing them is not intended as a reflection on @2tierrealityTest, I'm just frustrated, is all. Thanks. Sat, 06 Sep 2025 06:59:46 -0700 2tierreality from private IP Reply #12027370 ❤️ @AndyTest you were like the hard sci-fi guy at the soft sci-fi book club - it was never going going to work.Replies require login.
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