Fri, 28 Nov 2025 08:51:16 -0800 whiteguyinchina from private IP, post #11762340 š¤£ /all Zerosugar bait https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/nov/27/you-be-the-judge-should-my-partner-stop-compressing-the-coffee-in-the-moka-pot You be the judge: should my partner stop compressing the coffee in the moka pot? Hamad thinks his method enhances the flavour. Lucia says heās breaking all the sacred rules. Who needs to wake up and smell the coffee? The prosecution: Lucia Hamadās method isnāt the way itās supposed to be done. Iām Italian ā I know all about good coffee Hamad and I have been together for a year and a half, and this issue began when he started making coffee in my flat with the moka pot ā the iconic, eight-sided stove-top coffee maker that brews espresso-style coffee. Every time Hamad uses it, he will pack the coffee grounds down tightly, which you shouldnāt do, as the pot will start hissing. The moka pot was invented in Italy, where I grew up, and there it is taboo to compress the coffee grounds. Hamad did a barista course and likes to say that he knows more about coffee than me. But the course didnāt teach him about moka pots and traditional methods. He learned how to use modern coffee machines in cafes, where you have to compress coffee grounds. But Iāve been making coffee since I was nine and I donāt need a course to tell me how to use a moka pot. He turned it into a socio-political issue. Heās from India, and said āItalians arenāt the only ones who make coffeeā One of the first things you learn as a child in Italy is that youāre supposed to let some air into a moka pot ā pressing down the coffee grounds creates the opposite effect. The coffee sometimes spills out with Hamadās method, but when I make coffee that doesnāt happen, which shows you my technique is the right one. I told him to stop, but he turned it into a socio-political issue. Heās from India, and said: āItalians arenāt the only ones who make coffee,ā and ātraditions can be changed.ā But to me, itās also a matter of safety. He compresses the coffee grounds so tightly that pressure builds up, and the machine starts hissing loudly. I donāt think it would explode, but it could damage the pot. The defence: Hamad Pressing down the grounds improves the flavour. Lucia is just being a coffee snob Yes, Luciaās moka pot makes a hissing noise, but thatās not normal and itās not my fault. I have my own pot in my flat and whenever I compress the coffee grounds down, it is fine and doesnāt hiss. Pushing the grounds down makes coffee taste much better. I donāt know why it annoys Lucia so much. I just did a barista course, and despite Lucia saying itās not relevant to this style of coffee-making, I learned that if you want a stronger-tasting coffee you need more pressure. So thatās my reasoning behind compressing the coffee in the moka pot slightly. Itās simple physics. She even asked all her Italian friends what they thought of my technique. She sent a video of me pressing down the coffee grounds to her group chat Different parts of the world have different coffee-making techniques, but Lucia thinks her method is the best. She even asked all her Italian friends what they thought of my technique. She sent a video of me pressing down the coffee grounds to her group chat. They are all food fascists, so of course they said what I was doing was blasphemous, but thatās just because I donāt conform to Italian norms. Fri, 28 Nov 2025 08:51:40 -0800 whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #17453025 The mental illness is strong with these ones Fri, 28 Nov 2025 09:03:03 -0800 whiteguyinchina from private IP Reply #10628020 They're all food fascists! Do people really talk like this? I am glad I only interact with FOB asianz Fri, 28 Nov 2025 12:52:59 -0800 zerosugar from private IP Reply #12457732 She should have totally married an Italian guy if stuff like this bothers her so much. He is right though about coffee. Everybody has their own traditions and maybe in some Eastern countries they do compress the coffee down more. I donāt think the flavor changes if you pack it down tbh. She seems to be flipping out over something trivial. Fri, 28 Nov 2025 13:12:51 -0800 zerosugar from private IP Reply #15476505 Also one thing I would ask her is if the person wants a ristretto thatās highly concentrated you sort of have to do some compression unless you use a very tiny amount of water. I donāt like ristretto btw, but I know for some thatās like a huge thing.Replies require login.
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