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Mon, 15 Dec 2025 07:06:10 -0800
Andy from private IP, post #18520043

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Psychopathy in lawyers

This started off as almost a joke some years back, because I was reflecting on the early years of my legal career and came to the same conclusion with three
separate law firms I worked for: they were run by lawyers who (1) didn't seem to care much about money, (2) were not hurting for money, (3) enjoyed pulling
strings and controlling things, and/or were manipulative, and (4) abused other people for any reason-- but often for no reason at all!  I had filed this away
years ago as just the way things are, but it turns out there is recent research supporting the proposition that a large portion of "successful" leaders are not
motivated by normal things that people are motivated by, such as money, status, or prestige.  They are, instead, motivated by their need to control other
people, and also their sadistic, misanthropic tendencies. These traits are over-represented in attorneys, many of whom are simply unhealthy and beyond saving. 
I wrote an initial article on this for the law firm website, but I'm intending to expand this to a longer-form treatment of the subject specifically as it
relates to attorneys.  For now, I want to ask everyone a question: have you worked for, or with, or have you dealt with a lawyer who exhibited psychopathic
tendencies?  This is your opportunity to obtain revenge, I mean justice, in the court of public opinion.  Please reply to let me know you have a story to tell,
and let's discuss.  Thanks!

#LawFirm 


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 07:06:26 -0800
Andy from private IP
Reply #14038935

https://www.watters.law/articles/7-The-Psychopathic-Lawyer.php


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 09:40:12 -0800
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #11104312

You are right when you say some don’t care about money. I don’t understand why some firms take such bullshit cases. They want to grab the retainer and push
these useless cases off to associates who can risk their licenses with cases that shouldn’t be litigated to begin with. Don’t get me wrong, everybody
deserves their chance to be heard but the reality is some cases are not worth pursuing when the defendant is broke. Even some deep pocket Ds are not worth going
after because of the aggravation and limits to recovery unless something absolutely catastrophic happened, hello state agencies!!! 


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 09:43:04 -0800
zerosugar from private IP
Reply #18225558
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I haven’t worked with psychopaths, but I learned that there are few litigators who truly seem happy. Even the ones who make big money lol. 

With that being said, some partners who take the retainers while pushing cases off to associates should learn to be considerate or give higher rates for
problematic clients. 


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 13:05:29 -0800
Andy from private IP
Reply #13458163
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My post is getting loved on LinkedIn.  Seems like I'm not the only one!  Ha!


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 13:06:15 -0800
Andy from private IP
Reply #14422390
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P.S.  Hey, I'm sending an open invitation for all of you to connect with me on LinkedIn.  TheImmigrant is the only one I know of who actually took me up on
this, which was charming of him.


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 13:07:05 -0800
marlon from private IP
Reply #17257927

some don’t care about money

how can this be?  are they rich?  


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:21:55 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #10488452

So you should check this book out

Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes
Book by Andrzej Łobaczewski

Political Ponerology is a book by Polish psychologist Andrzej Łobaczewski that analyzes the nature of evil, particularly as it manifests in political systems.
The book, first published in 1984, argues that a specific type of "ponerology" (the study of evil) is necessary to understand how certain individuals and groups
can seize and maintain power through a process of "pathocracy". The original manuscript was destroyed before a police raid in Communist Poland.


Key Concept: It introduces the concept of "pathocracy," a system of government run by individuals with specific psychological abnormalities


Mon, 15 Dec 2025 15:23:20 -0800
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #14937095

His premise is basically that psychopaths are overrepresented in leadership positions because of their evil nature and ability to not feel empathy

He says realizing this is first step in making leadership qualifications preclude these nuts


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