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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:07:41 -0800
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I'm fucking sick of clients
I'm coming up on 19 years of law practice. I'm burned out and DGAF.
At this point, my problem is having individual clients. I don't want to deal
with their problems, or be responsible for fixing them. I don't want to hear
about their problems. I don't want the risk. I've never NOT had clients.
So I guess that leaves me with govt work, doc review, or leaving law altogether.
Jan 1, 2027 is when i officially hang up my spurs on what i'm doing right now
and wind it down. My second offspring graduates HS in 2027, and the though of
being free from KIDS and CLIENTS fills me with exhilaration I haven't felt in
LONG TIME.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:23:04 -0800
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@DSETest You speak the truth as a burned-out attorney. You
are like Deadpool, in that you hit the "fuck it" button as easily as you hit the
Staples "easy" button. I recall those days as well, however, that was from
working in someone else's toxic law firm. When I went out on my own and now
have my own law firm, I feel a lot better. If you are feeling this way despite
having your own practice, something is wrong-- maybe it's holding on too tight
for too long. Maybe it's the type of cases. There are tons of lawyers going
into government each year, as well as doing doc review and leaving altogether.
Would you prefer going to a 9-5 for the government to annotating PDF's all day?
At least you have a choice, could be worse.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:06:08 -0800
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I knew this was coming at some point. Various events over the last 3 weeks
(after a relatively peaceful few months) have made me realize that I'm burnt out
on all things client. Specifically, the ungratefulness, the lack of respect for
YOUR time, and the demands. All this is compounded by the fact that the current
lousy situation they are in is from their own poor decisionmaking. And by
clients i mean ALL of them: business, persons and governments.
The ungratefulness is particularly stinging because the risk I TAKE representing
them. It's MY reputation, MY malpractice premiums, and yes, even MY safety. Do
they care? No of course not. I don't expect them to because I'm not sure they
are capable of understanding that. And i don't begrudge them of that. It
occurred to my that they are damn near like teenagers and post adolescent adult
children...ungrateful little fucks that have no clue the time and money and
energy you put in, don't care to understand and just want MORE and expect as
such until you throw their ass out and let the WORLD sort them out.
I'm my 19th year of practicing. I was a public defender for almost 6 years. The
PD clients were def ungrateful but it didn't bother me, becasue my risk when
representing PD clients was absurdly low.
I've never NOT had clients. I actually did ap apply for a position in the govt,
there are no clients. I'm getting to the point where I'm willing to trade my
freedom and no office politics in for no clients and a nice benefit package.
NGL, it hurts my pride to say that but there it is.
And maybe it's because i'm 75% to being an empty nester. The oldest is 22, has a
kid and partner and lives on his own. The other one is 15 and quite independent
compared to the useless snowflakes of his generation. My default mentality NOW
is I don't HAVE TO put up with this shit anymore.
Never watched Deadpool, guess i will now lol.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:21:59 -0800
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@DSETest Deadpool the movie is a specific type of
entertainment-- violent with a twisted sense of humor. I think you would love
it-- really curious whether you will identify with the main character. The
first one was lower budget and supposedly funnier than the second one. Can't
believe Deadpool is a freaking Disney character now. Never saw that one coming.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:19:11 -0800
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In house is another option if you have significant experience in a single area.
I have one corporate behemoth of a client, and I already know what their
problems are for the most part. I review a lot of redlines and do some
negotiation calls. It's probably 15% negotiation, 15% drafting, and 70% reading
and responding. It's kinda like high profile doc review but the pay is a hell of
a lot better.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:35:00 -0800
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Blee: Actually I do. Half of my practice is devoted to representing units of
local government, 57 to be exact, including municipalities. The other half is
debt collection, estate planning, real estate and probate. I dumped famiy law in
March 2021 and most crim in 2023. Don't care about the money at this point.
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Thu, 22 Feb 2024 05:17:57 -0800
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You've been burned out like this since the early days of JDU.
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Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:17:51 -0800
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@DSETest what about increasing fees?
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