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DSE from private IP /all I'm fucking sick of clients I'm coming up on 19 years of law practice. I'm burned out and DGAF. At this point, my problem is having individual clients. I don't want to deal with their problems, or be responsible for fixing them. I don't want to hear about their problems. I don't want the risk. I've never NOT had clients. So I guess that leaves me with govt work, doc review, or leaving law altogether. Jan 1, 2027 is when i officially hang up my spurs on what i'm doing right now and wind it down. My second offspring graduates HS in 2027, and the though of being free from KIDS and CLIENTS fills me with exhilaration I haven't felt in LONG TIME. _reply Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:23:04 -0800
Andy from private IP /all @DSETest You speak the truth as a burned-out attorney. You are like Deadpool, in that you hit the "fuck it" button as easily as you hit the Staples "easy" button. I recall those days as well, however, that was from working in someone else's toxic law firm. When I went out on my own and now have my own law firm, I feel a lot better. If you are feeling this way despite having your own practice, something is wrong-- maybe it's holding on too tight for too long. Maybe it's the type of cases. There are tons of lawyers going into government each year, as well as doing doc review and leaving altogether. Would you prefer going to a 9-5 for the government to annotating PDF's all day? At least you have a choice, could be worse. _reply Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:06:08 -0800
DSE from private IP /all I knew this was coming at some point. Various events over the last 3 weeks (after a relatively peaceful few months) have made me realize that I'm burnt out on all things client. Specifically, the ungratefulness, the lack of respect for YOUR time, and the demands. All this is compounded by the fact that the current lousy situation they are in is from their own poor decisionmaking. And by clients i mean ALL of them: business, persons and governments. The ungratefulness is particularly stinging because the risk I TAKE representing them. It's MY reputation, MY malpractice premiums, and yes, even MY safety. Do they care? No of course not. I don't expect them to because I'm not sure they are capable of understanding that. And i don't begrudge them of that. It occurred to my that they are damn near like teenagers and post adolescent adult children...ungrateful little fucks that have no clue the time and money and energy you put in, don't care to understand and just want MORE and expect as such until you throw their ass out and let the WORLD sort them out. I'm my 19th year of practicing. I was a public defender for almost 6 years. The PD clients were def ungrateful but it didn't bother me, becasue my risk when representing PD clients was absurdly low. I've never NOT had clients. I actually did ap apply for a position in the govt, there are no clients. I'm getting to the point where I'm willing to trade my freedom and no office politics in for no clients and a nice benefit package. NGL, it hurts my pride to say that but there it is. And maybe it's because i'm 75% to being an empty nester. The oldest is 22, has a kid and partner and lives on his own. The other one is 15 and quite independent compared to the useless snowflakes of his generation. My default mentality NOW is I don't HAVE TO put up with this shit anymore. Never watched Deadpool, guess i will now lol. _reply Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:21:59 -0800
Andy from private IP /all @DSETest Deadpool the movie is a specific type of entertainment-- violent with a twisted sense of humor. I think you would love it-- really curious whether you will identify with the main character. The first one was lower budget and supposedly funnier than the second one. Can't believe Deadpool is a freaking Disney character now. Never saw that one coming. _reply Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:19:11 -0800
Blee from private IP /all In house is another option if you have significant experience in a single area. I have one corporate behemoth of a client, and I already know what their problems are for the most part. I review a lot of redlines and do some negotiation calls. It's probably 15% negotiation, 15% drafting, and 70% reading and responding. It's kinda like high profile doc review but the pay is a hell of a lot better. _reply Wed, 21 Feb 2024 12:35:00 -0800
DSE from private IP /all Blee: Actually I do. Half of my practice is devoted to representing units of local government, 57 to be exact, including municipalities. The other half is debt collection, estate planning, real estate and probate. I dumped famiy law in March 2021 and most crim in 2023. Don't care about the money at this point. _reply Thu, 22 Feb 2024 05:17:57 -0800
shithead from private IP /all You've been burned out like this since the early days of JDU. _reply Thu, 22 Feb 2024 08:17:51 -0800
2tierreality from private IP /all @DSETest what about increasing fees?
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