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Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:16:56 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP,
post #13241605  
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737MAX a case of MBAs running a company

https://youtu.be/DcB31RgeL50?si=jNjODxXw0-_7ci-J

Engineers getting pushed around by MBAs


Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:59:24 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #19108162   any big company is like that.  


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:32:05 -0700
Feic from private IP
Reply #11877868   I was a Boeing shareholder in
1999. Co. then had 900 million shares outstanding and was doing $55 billion in
sales. Today the Co. has like 600 million shares and has sales of about $75
billion. Can you spell BUYBACKS?
In 1999 there was a lot of press about how Boeing was making airplanes but not a
lot of money all while dot coms with little sales were going through the roof.
That is when Wall Street started bringing in the MBA/Jack Welch types to
Boeing.
Funny that today Wall Street is loud about blaming Boeing when it WAS WALL
STREET UBER SHAREHOLDER VALUE logic that created this mess in first place.


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:49:36 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #15563262   These high-paid executive types
all talk a big game.  People have short memories, so they forget all the lies
they hear.  Justify your giant pay package by giving never-ending bullshit. Seen
it first hand.  People want to believe it, do they have a choice?  u roll ur
eyes, they'll say ur not a team player, out u go.


Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:56:01 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #13999034   in my case, a keebler elf showed
me up in front of his girlfriends, by talking a big game.  place was a cult. 
drink that kool-aid, u suckups


Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:33:25 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #13699637   So they didn't want to train
pilots so they could use it as a sales pitch to airlines hey you can just put
your 737 guys on it with no training, and to do that they had to make no major
changes to the training manual which is how the whole thing about plane changing
pitch was hidden from pilots

Then when Ethiopia air training bro contacted Boeing about this the legal
department couldn't reveal anything due to legal liability from lion air 737
crash so they basically said no comment to his very pointed questions

And then Ethiopia air went down the same way


Fri, 14 Mar 2025 14:17:09 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #14039768   corporations, u gotta love 'em


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:36:50 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #12431606   The f/o in that Lion Air crash
was just hapless.  Totally out of his depth, and he had thousands of hours on
type.  I had occasion to become decently-ish familiar with the Max QRH and,
reading about how that dude didn't even know some pretty basic non-normal
checklist, it was totally astounding.  Even accounting for the stress of the
situation.

Of course, that's no excuse for crews not getting trained up properly on the
existence of, to say nothing of the proper care and feeding of, MCAS.  Which is
in the final analysis all about Boeing selling airlines on a common 737 type
rating for all the NG and Max jets.  Which in turn is MBA-bait to the people
running massive 737 fleets like Southwest.


Shanaaaaa.  They bought their tickets.  They knew what they were getting into. 
I say, let them crash.


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:48:22 -0700
Andy from private IP
Reply #19670185   I flew in a 737-MAX8 this
morning.  Not sure what to make of all this.


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:03:31 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #19239449   Will fly one saturday


Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:15:52 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #15317145   Guy I know is biggest airplane
parts logistics company in America, he refuses to let his family fly

Discuss


Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:25:53 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #14582162   You'd like to think that every
piece of an airplane, however insignificant, has a paper trail behind it all the
way to a dump truck hauling ore from a mine.  You'd like to think that every
replacement part fitted to an airplane, particularly here in the USA, is legit
and documented and not counterfeit.

But you'd be wrong.


Tue, 18 Mar 2025 13:50:17 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #14717679   NASA was buying parts off Ebay
for some project i forget


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:41:15 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #17719171   An aircraft I flew was destroyed
in a crash by another pilot on the very next flight after I flew it.  Ultimately
it was pilot error - and pretty bad at that.

The airplane had been repaired with unapproved parts, one of which failed and
caused the aircraft's electrical system to be highly degraded.  The failure
itself would not have prevented the airplane from flying, but instead the pilot
fixated on working around the failure while flying at night and scud-running.
Dude basically had a CFIT and somehow managed not to die.

And when I say "unapproved parts" I mean parts which were not made for aviation
at all. Someone decided it was worth cutting a cost corner at the risk of some
unknown pilot's safety.  Total stricher move.




Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:02:26 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #18291626   Yea they call those things flying
cans don't they

The Cessna death rate must be outta this world

Things get more serious when you have meat puppets on board


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:02:39 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #14394324   Or shall I say wet cargo


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:03:19 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #18546162   I watch a lot of the mentour
videos, it's much better than aircraft disasters because he technically explains
the failure


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:05:07 -0700
whiteguyinchina from private IP
Reply #17638985   So this dude is in charge of
commercial aviation parts, engines and all that

This is stuff going to delta or american airlines

He says not safe 


Wed, 19 Mar 2025 19:18:12 -0700
marlon from private IP
Reply #11562829   The Cessna i trained in back in
1991 was twenty years old at the time.  They teach u to land if engine dies, on
a road or a field, but that never happened.  hard to believe i survived, once i
was flying solo, i was 17 yrs old, & i attempted a power-on stall, ended up
upside down, i remember seeing the snow-covered ground out the window


Fri, 21 Mar 2025 08:56:02 -0700
phosita from private IP
Reply #17386394   Ahh marlon, you entered a spin
from a power-on stall.  But it would appear you negotiated that alright eh.


@12431606 Andy 🥺 @11562829 Andy 😮
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